ACX Mastering

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by lwitek » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:07 am

Hi Koz,

I just tried to reproduce your fix and I still failed.

Audio Compressor
-- Select the whole clip or show by clicking just above MUTE.
-- Effect > Normalize: [X]Remove DC, [X]Normalize to -3.5 > OK
-- Effect > Compressor: Thresh -20, Floor -40, Ratio 2:1, Attack 0.2, Release 1.0, > OK
-- Effect > Normalize: [X]Remove DC, [X]Normalize to -3.5 > OK
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Did you apply any noise reduction effects?

Thank you again.

Laura

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by kozikowski » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:45 am

Did you apply any noise reduction effects?
No, I didn't. And RMS (loudness) isn't the only bad number. In my correction, the noise is -70dB which is expected and rational. The -207dB noise reading from your correction is not. The only reason that number passes ACX Noise is a quirk in ACX-Check. The way it thinks, any number quieter than -60 passes whether or not it's rational.

Are you working from DB Chapter 1 Edited.wav that I got from the hightail.com posting site?
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What happens if you hide your original work safely in custom folders, download DB Chapter 1 Edited.wav and apply the correction suite to that? Let's see what happens if we're both working from the exact same sound file.

Koz

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by lwitek » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:59 am

Hi Koz,

I just found page 2 of this post.

I downloaded the same file just as you suggested.
I ran these effects as follows:
Audio Compressor
-- Select the whole clip or show by clicking just above MUTE.
-- Effect > Normalize: [X]Remove DC, [X]Normalize to -3.5 > OK
-- Effect > Compressor: Thresh -20, Floor -40, Ratio 2:1, Attack 0.2, Release 1.0, > OK
-- Effect > Normalize: [X]Remove DC, [X]Normalize to -3.5 > OK
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I see that Length of selection are the same... etc... Interesting that results are different. Your thought?

Thank you so much.

Laura

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by kozikowski » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:56 am

Are you using Audacity 2.1.2?

I need to read over that again and I'm running out of Sunday in California.

As we go.

Koz

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by lwitek » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:38 pm

Hi Koz,

Yes Audacity 2.1.2 and the settings for the effects below.
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Thank you, Laura

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by cyrano » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:43 pm

lwitek wrote: My setup is as follows:
-Microphone Shure SM7B Dynamic Vocal Mic w/ Mic Boom Stand, Pop Filter
-Zoom R16 - Recorder/ Interface/ Controller
...
This combo is what lead to you low recording level. Think about changing the Shure to a higher output mic, or replacing the Zoom with a better interface or recorder. The result is noise (hiss) in your tracks. More work in post.

Most of these relatively simple interfaces fail if you combine them with a low output oldie like the SM7b.

See if you can borrow something like an Rode NT1 or a CAD E100S to test with your voice, if you feel like changing.

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by kozikowski » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:59 pm

Yes, but. That doesn't account for two of us working on the same sound file and getting different results. I need to get back home.

Koz

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by kozikowski » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:36 am

Open the DB Chapter 1 Edited.wav file you got from the download and Analyze > ACX-Check. I got the attached panel. I know of no reason they should be different.

Koz
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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by lwitek » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:20 am

Hi Koz,

Yes I get the same stats as you per the following:
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So do I have the same check boxes as you as I have indicated below?
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Thank you, Laura

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Re: ACX Mastering

Post by kozikowski » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:13 am

You apply Normalize to -3.5 and remove DC and the blue waves get very slightly smaller.

Our compressors are the same. When I apply compression, the blue waves get very much smaller and the sticking up parts around 10 seconds almost vanish. (attached).
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Then I applied Normalize again...and now mine fails, too. Son of [email protected]#$%&

I can't make it pass without multiple different tools that I know I didn't need earlier.

I'm getting groggy.

Koz

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