Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

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Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by SheilaQ » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:00 pm

Yikes! What the @#$% caused this??!!!!

I've read some of the other messages, but either I'm unable to understand if there was ever a fix or what the heck is going on? I had all my files saved happily in a directory on my hard drive. I didn't move them at all. I did copy and paste them BACK INTO the same directory and renamed the copy to something different, as I wanted to preserve my RAW files. I also copied and renamed the aup directory and its files. Now I cannot open the original files NOR the copied versions -- again -- ALL HAVE REMAINED IN THE SAME DIRECTORY. I had closed and reopened them at least once -- then all of a sudden they lose their pointers to the audio files -- I GUESS???!!!

I've spent HOURS editing a couple of files and now I am unable to access them to complete! PLEASE . . . tell me what I'm doing, not doing, should be doing . . . whatever! (Koz - in case you get this -- I'm really concerned about this. I'm working on a REAL project!)

Operating System: Windows XP Pro
Audacity Version: 2.1.2

Sure hope I don't have to start all over -- AGAIN! :-)

Sheila Q.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:48 pm

AUP is a text file. It's semi-English computer instructions what to do with all that stuff in the _DATA folder.

Open one of them in a text editor and read the first few lines. This is a graphic example of what it looks like (your mileage may vary).

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Look for the line that says projname=".

It is required that you put the AUP and the _DATA filenames back to that name. You may not change either of those names outside of Audacity. Backups can be made by copying the AUP and the _DATA to a separate directory or drive without changing the names.

Next time Export a WAV (Microsoft) sound file as a backup.

The specific error sometimes happens when you close Audacity before it gets done writing the work to the drive. The scenario is someone who finishes a job and slams their laptop shut just a little too soon.

I don't know there is a solution. It usually means there's pieces of the show that just aren't there any more.

I read through that three times and I can't visualize what you did. You copied.....what?

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:56 pm

We have a no-win condition. Windows XP is now a security hazard if it ever touches the internet. Don't let it touch the internet.

The only option is The Horror That Is Windows 10.

Or convert to Mac.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:58 pm

I do have a visual aid. This is a normal Project.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:07 pm

Audacity used to default to a system where it would leave associated sound files splashed all over your machine. It doesn't do that any more. Unless you changed it, Audacity is complete in one file and one folder. So no more pointers to external files.

Unless you want that. Audacity can be very fast and efficient with external sound files. Many people couldn't manage the spray of files, however.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:10 pm

Windows XP. Are you running out of hard drive space? When was the last time you optimized your drive? WinXP will not do that automatically and the drive will slowly get rattier and sloppier.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by SheilaQ » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:12 pm

Hi Koz!! :-)

Great to hear from you! It's been a little bit. :-) Oh, before I start, I'm only using my Windows XP desktop for doing my edits -- not recording. It's just in a more comfortable part of my apartment. :-) In hopes of helping you better understand what I did, I'll give it another shot -- OH! And thanks for the text file tidbit. I'll give that a try. OK, I've always been used to being able in applications, that if I wanted a second copy of a file, I could either do a second "Save As" and name it something meaningful. Or, I could "copy" the original file, paste it back into the same or a different directory, and just rename it -- thus either way -- I had a second working copy -- or a backup. My intent with Audacity was to enable me to keep the RAW recording and the MASTERED copy separate.

Audacity obviously does not allow for that. I had already tried doing a second "Save Project As", but it would always tell me I was working only with an audio file and it couldn't save it as a new project. I never was able to open a previously saved "project" -- (i.e. book chapter), or maybe I wasn't going about it right. If I drilled down in the .aup directory, it showed a bunch of separate audio files.

So, what I had done was, within the directory on my hard drive where I had my original recordings, I tried doing the copy/paste on both the project directories, and audio file that was hanging outside the project directory, and pasted them back into the same location, then renamed both to match. After I did that, then I got the "Missing Audio Data Block File(s) error on both the copied/pasted file(s) AND on the originals -- and all I had done with the originals was copy them. It just seems weird.

I'll see if I can do the text file thing and get things somewhat back in order before moving ahead. As always, thanks so much for your input and help. Hope you're having a terrific day!! I'll let you know if I get your recommendation to work. Take care!

Sheila

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by SheilaQ » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:14 pm

Sorry Koz . . . didn't see your newest two messages as I was replying to your earlier ones. No, I agree that it's a good thing not to have the sound files all over the place. As for XP machine, I optimized just last week. Plus, I still have 193GB of space left on its hard drive. But, again, I'm only using it for editing -- transferring my files via a thumb drive from my Windows 7 laptop.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:17 pm

Just a ray of sunshine before I have to drop out for a while. If you Did Something when you saved the project from the edit, then all your saves and backups are damaged.

Do you have the WAV (Microsoft) you Exported from the original performance? At least you don't have to do that again.

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Re: Missing Audio Data Block File(s)

Post by kozikowski » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:18 pm

Dueling Posts. I need to read through that.

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