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Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:31 pm
by bob152637485
I'm currently doing a project that involves trying to synthesize my own voice to say a simple message. Because I am doing this through customized sample rates and it being binary controlled, I've been looking at a recording of my own voice to try and copy. It'd be a lot easier if I could have a grid-like layout over the audio recording. The single vertical line I can place is helpful, but I am looking for a general grid that has multiple vertical and horizontal lines overlaying the recording. Is there any settings or plugins available that would allow me to do just this?
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:56 pm
by steve
You can create labels at regular intervals.
When you select up to a label edge, there is a weak "snapping" to the label position and a yellow vertical line appears.
Some useful links:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/bo ... uides.html
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/label_tracks.html
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/re ... abels.html
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:37 am
by bob152637485
While not 100% what I had in mind, the interval-labeling is working nicely to have 2 vertical lines at once. Thank you very much. Would there be a similar workaround for the horizontal lines(amplitude instead of time)?
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:34 am
by steve
bob152637485 wrote:Would there be a similar workaround for the horizontal lines(amplitude instead of time)?
Not really a workaround, but there are some features of the vertical track ruler that can help in viewing specific amplitudes.
- Left click on the vertical ruler to zoom in.
- Right click on the vertical ruler to zoom out
(OR shift + left click)
- Left click and drag up/down to select a vertical zoom range.
- Shift + right click to zoom to normal.
- Scroll wheel to scroll up/down
See:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/au ... html#scale
There are also some "feature requests" logged on the Audacity wiki that you may want to "vote" for. (Voting does not mean that the feature will be implemented, as development of Audacity is by volunteers in their free time, but it allows us to log user interest in new features).
If you search this page (
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Feature_Requests) for "Waveform Grid lines:" you will see a number of related features that you may want to vote for. If you tell us which features you want to vote for, one of the forum moderators will add your vote(s).
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:08 pm
by bob152637485
Thank you once again. I would like to place a vote for the "Horizontal and vertical" subcategory.
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:52 am
by steve
bob152637485 wrote:Thank you once again. I would like to place a vote for the "Horizontal and vertical" subcategory.
I've added your vote.
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:55 pm
by Meddle Earth
steve wrote:bob152637485 wrote:Thank you once again. I would like to place a vote for the "Horizontal and vertical" subcategory.
I've added your vote.
How does one vote for an adjustable Horizontal Grid Line on waveform edit screen?
Can I vote for it myself, or can you vote for me?
Thank you!
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:36 am
by waxcylinder
I've added your vote on the Wiki Feature Requests page - now a total of 24 votes I note.
See:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Feature_Requests#grid
WC
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:33 pm
by Meddle Earth
Thank you for helping me WC!
My usage is while editing concert recordings, typically between 45 minutes to 2 hours long. Depending on venue and band, my original recordings (stereo split into L/R channels) need 'Normalize' effect applied to remove DC offset and increase amplitude to near maximum.
But before applying the effect, I spot the most extreme spikes in the recording, then zoom all the way into the waveform until I see the single portion of the wave responsible for creating the spike line. I then carefully reduce just that portion of the wave (by applying a small negative 'Amplify' level) until its waveform comes down to some "suitable" horizontal level. Then I do this to other spikes across the entire length of the recording, one spike at a time (very tedious if there are lots of spikes I want to bring down), until all spikes are reduced to the same "suitable" horizontal level.
At that point, I finally apply the 'Normalize' effect to the entire recording. This boosts the recording's volume to a level I like better than had I applied 'Normalize' to my original raw recording. Having an adjustable horizontal grid line, one for the top and one for the bottom of the waveform per channel, would help me better visualize the operation when reducing the spikes down a touch to this "suitable" horizontal level. As it is now, without horizontal grid lines in Audacity, I size a window of another application (like Notepad or whatever), and then bring that window over the top of Audacity's window to act as a "horizontal ruler" that shows the spikes sticking out over the top of the "ruler". So I'm flipping this other application's window over Audacity back-n-forth, back-n-forth between each edit of each spike, thereby making an already tedious task more burdensome.
Re: Grid Layout Plugin?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:28 pm
by 123har456
Not too keen on "Plug-Ins" (Like it's a lot of work and subject to mistake, etc.) .
Reading the Request for "Grid" - may I suggest Audacity considers that as "Option" - when you set-up Preferences - but I'd offer _ grid to time ( accentuated at 1min, perhaps - there are colours available ) and Grid to dB so we can see the waveform reaching the 0db ( or other?) limit - shown as red-line perhaps?
..........I'm using Win7 32 - and just downloaded Audacity 2.1.2 - thankyou........
- yet I may still use ex-Sony Sound Forge Studio ( which has its own User-interface issues!), because it's very easy for most "adjustments" - Sadly with Magix in the mix I doubt I'll update - never had any joy with two of their software pieces . . . so I'd hope Audacity "Interface" to be plenty friendly.
FAULT
I'll post this elsewhere if I can find suitable..... when I go to Effect ( looking for "Amplify" ) the program thinks I want to minimise the screen - so for several "tries" I'm fighting the screen. This is whenever the effects-list is too long ( so why not make it two columns with a decent space between?)- and the tiny Triangle is right at the top of the Screen . . it just need a dummy-line above the triangle to act as "mouse-pointer-buffer" . . . . or perhaps there is already an easier way to scroll the listing - not blatently obvious - to me.
The Poster who has long audio recordings - My to-be suggested interface would be a bonus. Will say elsewhere, but I'm not holding breath. This would reduce the time for a "Volume correction" session very conveniently - but would allow it to be "tweaked" at a later time if saved as a "Project" (ie with the controls recorded. )
I get the impression Audacity does have a Project/session facility - (but it's far from clear) when what I want to SAVE is a simple WAV file, for use elsewhere.
This is very-much like Video-Editing where the User "instructions" only become "Real" when the project is Rendered - if the PC is fast-enough, Instructions will play almost correctly -but the rendered version is the only final version worth showing.
Thanks.