Grid Layout Plugin?

[steve]

Thank you for your contribution 123har456, but you have raised many issues that diverge from the topic under discussion. So that we can remain focussed on the issue stated in the subject line, I shall address your other questions very briefly, and if you want further information, or wish to discus these matters further, please start new a new thread (a new subject) for each topic.

Reading the Request for "Grid" - may I suggest Audacity considers that as "Option"

I have added your vote.

grid to time ( accentuated at 1min, perhaps

I think we would need a more flexible approach as some users will be working on long recordings where 1 min intervals will be appropriate, but other users will be working on much shorter tracks where much smaller intervals will be required.

and Grid to dB

I've added your vote for that also.

when I go to Effect ( looking for "Amplify" ) the program thinks I want to minimise the screen

That sounds like something that shouldn't happen, but as far as I'm aware it is not a known bug. Please start a new topic and provide step by step instructions for how to reproduce the problem.

why not make it two columns with a decent space between?

There are several options to order the Effect menu in different ways. See: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/effe ... ences.html

perhaps there is already an easier way to scroll the listing

On Windows, if you open the Effect menu and then type a letter, the menu will scroll down to the first effect that begins with that letter. Press the letter again and it will scroll down to the next effect that begins with that letter...

My to-be suggested interface would be a bonus. Will say elsewhere, but I'm not holding breath. This would reduce the time for a "Volume correction" session very conveniently - but would allow it to be "tweaked" at a later time if saved as a "Project" (ie with the controls recorded. )

See the track "Gain" slider: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/audi ... .html#gain

I get the impression Audacity does have a Project/session facility

Yes, an Audacity session is handled as a "project". See: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/auda ... jects.html

when what I want to SAVE is a simple WAV file, for use elsewhere.

To create a normal audio file you need to "export". See: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/exporting_audio.html

[waxcylinder]

when I go to Effect ( looking for "Amplify" ) the program thinks I want to minimise the screen - so for several "tries" I'm fighting the screen. This is whenever the effects-list is too long ( so why not make it two columns with a decent space between?)- and the tiny Triangle is right at the top of the Screen . . it just need a dummy-line above the triangle to act as "mouse-pointer-buffer" . . . . or perhaps there is already an easier way to scroll the listing - not blatently obvious - to me.

I get bitten by the little triangle at the top at times when I have the full long list, minimizing my full screen window.

It happens when I am working in full scren mode and need to scroll up the menu. What seems to make the minimize happen is that once you get to the top of the list the little black triangle turns gray - double clicking on that will cause the minimize. Actually on testing just now I note that double-clicking on that top triangle when it is black (as scrolling up is enabled) will also cause the minimize (this is on W10 and on my previous W7 installation too). This doesn't happpen when you double-click the bottom sroll-down traingle - and double clicking the top scroll-up triangle has no effect when working with a minimized Aufacity window.
@Steve/Gale: do you think this is a bug?

I have a cute workaround for this situation on my production configuration. I realized that I only regularly use a small subset of the effects, so I shorten the list by disabling the ones I don't need with the "Add/Remove Plug-ins" at the top of the effect menu. That way I get a nice short dropdown menu that doesn't need any scrolling

I can always re-enable any of the disabled effects if I realize I need them later.

Plus, for my really commonly-used effects like Amplify and the fades I have set handy custom shortcuts. See: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/keyb ... tml#change

WC

[steve]

@Steve/Gale: do you think this is a bug?

I've just checked on Windows, and yes it's a bug (doesn't happen on Linux), and it's been around for a very long time (reproducible in Audacity 1.3.4 on Windows XP).

Testing on XP (the only version of Windows that I have available:
Normally, main menu items are below the title bar, but in the case of the Effect menu, the top of the menu overlaps with the title bar (top of the main Audacity window). When the menu is scrolled to the top, the top "menu item" (the arrow) is disabled, so the the menu is unable to capture the mouse clicks, thus the clicks pass through to the underlying title bar, thus triggering the title bar click behaviour (maximize or un-maximize the window). I presume that the behaviour on later versions of Windows is similar.

[waxcylinder]

@Steve: do you want me to log this one?

Peter.

[steve]

@Steve: do you want me to log this one?

Peter.

Yes, please do (I only have obsolete XP, so I can't be sure precisely what you see on later versions of Windows).

[Gale Andrews]

@Steve/Gale: do you think this is a bug?

I've just checked on Windows, and yes it's a bug (doesn't happen on Linux), and it's been around for a very long time (reproducible in Audacity 1.3.4 on Windows XP).

Testing on XP (the only version of Windows that I have available:
Normally, main menu items are below the title bar, but in the case of the Effect menu, the top of the menu overlaps with the title bar (top of the main Audacity window). When the menu is scrolled to the top, the top "menu item" (the arrow) is disabled, so the the menu is unable to capture the mouse clicks, thus the clicks pass through to the underlying title bar, thus triggering the title bar click behaviour (maximize or un-maximize the window). I presume that the behaviour on later versions of Windows is similar.

That seems a good description of the problem as I also see it on Windows 10.

I understood that the Effect menu overlapping the Menu Bar was a wxWidgets bug.

So I don't see how it can happen in Full Screen (F11) because there the Title Bar is hidden and the Effect Menu can only overlap into the Menu Bar itself.

I assume the "minimise" happens when the Audacity window is restored down with the Audacity Title Bar below the top of the screen and the click is above the grey triangle. The click then gets passed through to another application so as to give that application focus. I can't make that happen when Audacity is maximised - the Audacity window just gets restored down.



Gale