Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

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Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by Termi1 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:12 pm

I have a zoom h5 and will use the audio interface. But the only way I get audacity to pick up the mics is if it is in stereo. Really would like to be able to do it multitrack. HELP PLEASE!!!!

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by cyrano » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:55 pm

Disconnect the zoom from the computer and use the menu on the H5 to set it to multitrack. It's on stereo by default. See page 72 of the manual.

After that, reconnect the Zoom and it will appear with 4 channels in Audacity. You will need to "rescan for audio devices" under the Transport menu in Audacity, unless you have closed Audacity in between.

Then, use the input channels selection, to the right of the input device selection to select four channels in Audacity.

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:20 pm

cyrano wrote:Disconnect the zoom from the computer and use the menu on the H5 to set it to multitrack. It's on stereo by default. See page 72 of the manual.

After that, reconnect the Zoom and it will appear with 4 channels in Audacity. You will need to "rescan for audio devices" under the Transport menu in Audacity, unless you have closed Audacity in between.

Then, use the input channels selection, to the right of the input device selection to select four channels in Audacity.
Does that work on Windows though, without compiling an ASIO-enabled version of Audacity? I don't know, I am asking. It would be useful to know.


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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by cyrano » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:08 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:Does that work on Windows though, without compiling an ASIO-enabled version of Audacity? I don't know, I am asking. It would be useful to know.
I have no idea, Gale. It's a good thing you asked, as I had completely forgotten about ASIO in Audacity. And I suppose the driver for the Zoom is an ASIO driver?

I've only experienced Zoom drivers on the Mac, a while ago, for an R16, and wasn't too overwhelmed by their quality. It took the manufacturer months to come up with a stable, working driver. And when they were released, I had to learn about it on the Zoom forum. The driver only appeared on the Japanese Zoom site at first, not on the US site. And since my Japanese isn't too good, it meant I missed the updates. I hope things are better these days.

It's also why I used my Zoom mostly as a recorder. And why I ultimately sold it. That, and the fairly weak preamps.

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by Gale Andrews » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:54 pm

cyrano wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:Does that work on Windows though, without compiling an ASIO-enabled version of Audacity? I don't know, I am asking. It would be useful to know.
I have no idea, Gale. It's a good thing you asked, as I had completely forgotten about ASIO in Audacity. And I suppose the driver for the Zoom is an ASIO driver?
On https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/handy-r ... #downloads there are downloads for firmware and for an "H/F Series ASIO Driver" and "H/F Series Multi-Track ASIO Driver" (with 32- and 64-bit versions of each driver).

If the ASIO driver is mandatory it should still work with Audacity as shipped if it also includes a WDM driver, but it would be open to question if Audacity would see four recording channels or would see two independent stereo devices instead. The PDF that comes with the driver does not say anything about what is actually installed.

It would be very helpful if Termi1 could try it out and report back.


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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by rcoimbra » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:44 pm

Hello Termi1, you managed to use the Zoom H5 in Multitrack mode?
I have the same problem, it only works in Stereo mode.
I really appreciate it if you can help me.
Tks

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by DVDdoug » Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:15 pm

I don't have any idea if you can get it to work as a multi-channel interface for Audacity. but... Computers are the least reliable gadgets we own! Mostly, that's related to multitasking and all of the variations & configuration options. (Your operating system is always multitasking even when you're only running one application.)

But in any case, a stand-alone recorder is usually much more reliable than a computer and you should be able to transfer the multi-track recordings to Audacity for editing. At that point if you have a "computer problem" you've usually got time to fix it and your recording doesn't get ruined. (But of course you should make a back-up of anything "critical".

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by jademan » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 pm

rcoimbra wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:44 pm
Hello Termi1, you managed to use the Zoom H5 in Multitrack mode?
I have the same problem, it only works in Stereo mode.
I really appreciate it if you can help me.
Tks
So I was looking at the ZOOM site and only see one Multi-track driver for Windows and it is an ASIO driver. I believe you would need this to record in Multi-track with ANY Windows software. (I think Cakewalk is free and may support Mult-track, but I am not sure).

Solely for licensing reasons, Audacity does NOT ship with ASIO support. However, you can create your own private version of Audacity that DOES support ASIO. See here: viewtopic.php?p=410225#p410225

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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by steve » Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:01 am

rcoimbra wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:44 pm
Hello Termi1, you managed to use the Zoom H5 in Multitrack mode?
I have the same problem, it only works in Stereo mode.
I don't have a Zoom H5, but if you post the "Audio Device Info" from Audacity (with the Zoom H5 connected) I'll be able to tell you if 4 channel recording is possible with the Windows version of Audacity. (see: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/hel ... evice_info)
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Re: Getting Multi-track with a zoom H5 and Audacity

Post by kozikowski » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:04 pm

The desperation method is using the H5 as a stand-alone recorder and transfer sound files for editing later. Have you tried that? It's one way to avoid the Stop Dead process of trying to record on the computer.

You can be cranking out musical entertainment while we're figuring out a way around the ASIO software conundrum.

A word about the four channels. Last I looked, that was true only in Advertising and Promotion Speak. It won't record four matching XLR microphones. It will record two microphones and the two on-board built-in microphones. Is your job OK with that?

Koz

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