Audacity Forum

I'm running Windows 8.1 & have the E-MU1212m & Patchmix DSP software hooked up to a Behringer 1622fx. It has be running fine with Cool Edit 2000 & Audacity 2.0.6 with 2gb 240pin dimm PC3-10666 1333 memory but since I added 2 - 4 gb sticks totaling 8gb when I record from my stereo I can't get it to work & when I do it stutters. If I pull a stick out I can get it to always record be the playback strutters. I can set it to loopback & it will record fine from audio that's on my computer. It also records fine if I use the old 2gb stick of memory. I'm guess Cool Edit 2000 has a problem with anything over 2gb & Audacity well IDK. Any help would be appreciated!

PLEASE don't tell me to search I read EVERY thread on this & nothing helped. The ONLY thing I don't have is the chipset drivers from Asus for my Ma477t/usb3 motherboard. I'm waiting for them to upload the correct ones. I was told in 2 to 3 days they should be up.

TheButcher69 wrote:It has be running fine with Cool Edit 2000 & Audacity 2.0.6 with 2gb 240pin dimm PC3-10666 1333 memory but since I added 2 - 4 gb sticks totaling 8gb when I record from my stereo I can't get it to work & when I do it stutters. If I pull a stick out I can get it to always record be the playback strutters. I can set it to loopback & it will record fine from audio that's on my computer. It also records fine if I use the old 2gb stick of memory. I'm guess Cool Edit 2000 has a problem with anything over 2gb & Audacity well IDK.

It doesn't sound like the problem is confined to Audacity then.

Please say what version of Windows you are using.

You have to be careful when you add memory that the new memory is compatible with the old. See here for how to test memory https://www.raymond.cc/blog/test-your-r ... iagnostic/ (ignore the first section "Microsoft’s Windows Memory Diagnostic" because that only tests the first 4 GB of memory).

If you are saying that WASAPI host works for you in Audacity then you can try Audacity 2.1.1 from http://audacityteam.org/download/windows - in 2.1.1 you can use WASAPI for physical inputs.

Otherwise follow the obvious procedures of starting with 44100 Hz project rate in Audacity and using the same rate in Windows and in all other software and hardware settings.

If you have not yet done so you can contact Creative support through this page: http://support.creative.com/Products/Pr ... goryID:237.


Gale

I'm running Windows 8.1 64bit Asus M4a77t/usbs3, AMD Phenom II X4 955 cpu 3.20 quad core. There's a Dram button on my MB & it said memory suceeded. I don't see any weird things happening. I contacted PNY Crucial & a couple local computer shops & Asus & they said they think it's the program. I did read that sound recorder had problems with memory over 2gb so I was thinking that was the problem with Cool Edit 2000 since it's from 1999. The E-MU Dsp patchmix is set the same way it always was. I tried Audacity 2.1.1 & it did the same thing.

This guy is having the same problem as me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ZgmKRbTXM

I was ready to send this memory back but Crucial looked up the memory & said they would give me something just about the same. Also my MB doesn't support more then 4gb sticks but it tried an 8gb PC3-12800 & the memory post ran at 1600 with the same problem. Weird thing is if the sound is on the computer loopback works & it records fine but Cool Edit doesn't work at all. And as soon as I try to record from an outside source it records silent & then after some different configurations which I can't reproduce now it did the same as the video above.

I did run Memtest86 & no errors were found.

Nevermind I fixed it. Turns out I check under Device Manger & sound & since I upgraded my video card Nvidia was some how interrupting things I disabled Nvvidia & now I can use MME in Audacity.

TheButcher69 wrote:Nevermind I fixed it. Turns out I check under Device Manger & sound & since I upgraded my video card Nvidia was some how interrupting things I disabled Nvvidia & now I can use MME in Audacity.

Thanks for following up. Feel free to add to the topic if something changes.


Gale

Well I guess I spoke to soon I rewrote my virgin image to update & make a new image of my system only to find when I disabled those things it does not work again. Any help would be appreciated.

I'm absolutely positive it's my new memory. My old stuff is PC3-10600 1333 & the new stuff is PC3-10666 my CPU is an AMD Phenom II X4 955. As soon as I put the old 2gb stick in I can use Cool Edit 2000 & Audacity 2.0.6 & 2.1.1 on MME.

TheButcher69 wrote:I'm absolutely positive it's my new memory. My old stuff is PC3-10600 1333 & the new stuff is PC3-10666 my CPU is an AMD Phenom II X4 955. As soon as I put the old 2gb stick in I can use Cool Edit 2000 & Audacity 2.0.6 & 2.1.1 on MME.

By which you mean you don't get garbled playback and recording in Audacity using MME?

Did you try WASAPI in 2.1.1 or do you need MME? Bear in mind that if you want to use MME you should set "Default Format" for all the EMU inputs and outputs in Windows Sound to the same rate as Audacity project rate. Otherwise you may get garbled results irrespective of memory issues.

I don't think Audacity has a problem with more than 2 GB memory. I have 6 GB memory on Windows and I added another 2 GB memory for a total of 4 GB on Mac. On Windows, a 32-bit app like CoolEdit or Audacity can't address more than 2 GB RAM because Windows does not allow it, unless the app respects 4GT tuning by enabling IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE and you've turned 4 GT on. Audacity does not have IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE enabled.

Of course, your sound card may be sensitive to extra RAM or even slightly mismatched RAM. I think you would have to discuss this with Creative, Crucial or on more technical Windows forums that are concerned with tuning and overclocking.


Gale

Gale Andrews wrote:

TheButcher69 wrote:I'm absolutely positive it's my new memory. My old stuff is PC3-10600 1333 & the new stuff is PC3-10666 my CPU is an AMD Phenom II X4 955. As soon as I put the old 2gb stick in I can use Cool Edit 2000 & Audacity 2.0.6 & 2.1.1 on MME.

By which you mean you don't get garbled playback and recording in Audacity using MME?

Did you try WASAPI in 2.1.1 or do you need MME? Bear in mind that if you want to use MME you should set "Default Format" for all the EMU inputs and outputs in Windows Sound to the same rate as Audacity project rate. Otherwise you may get garbled results irrespective of memory issues.

I don't think Audacity has a problem with more than 2 GB memory. I have 6 GB memory on Windows and I added another 2 GB memory for a total of 4 GB on Mac. On Windows, a 32-bit app like CoolEdit or Audacity can't address more than 2 GB RAM because Windows does not allow it, unless the app respects 4GT tuning by enabling IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE and you've turned 4 GT on. Audacity does not have IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE enabled.

Of course, your sound card may be sensitive to extra RAM or even slightly mismatched RAM. I think you would have to discuss this with Creative, Crucial or on more technical Windows forums that are concerned with tuning and overclocking.


Gale

Correct I don't get garbled playback with the 2gb module & MME works.

I did try WASAPI in 2.1.1 with the 2-4gb memory modules & is the only way it works with my Behringer 1622fx on channel 7/8 & will record correctly with everything on my computer or internet. But with WASAPI & my Behringer 1622fx on channel 1 (Mic) or 5/6 (Stereo) it records silence & sometimes (I don't know how) it records but it records garbled & sometimes it records fine but most of the time it records silence or the line that shows what's being recorded just stays at the beginning jumping slightly. Cool Edit 2000 never records anything with the 2-4gb modules it only records silence & the peak meters are steady about 1/4 of the way up acting like it doesn't hear sound. I am using "Default" with Patchmix DSP. If I take 1-4gb module out most of the time it records fine on all channels but does get the above problems. The 2gb module works correctly with everything & so does Cool Edit 2000. I've flashed my BIOS to the newest version. I've can't find the motherboard drivers for Windows 8.1 64 bit OS. I've ran Memtest86 8 passes & no errors. I've tried clearing CMOS. I've tried different configurations with the 2-4gb modules in the DIMM slots pressing the DRAM button each time. The problem comes in when I add that second module. I've tried Reaper & it only works with the ASIO setup.