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problems recording

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:32 pm
by SteveInHastings
hi
i have moved up from a win xp pc with a creative soundblaster card to a new pc with win 10 and on board soundcard/audacity 211.
i have recorded music using audacity but there are issues:
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
the quality of recording is poor; very tinny. comparing the original and playback its about 50% drop in quality
when i start audacity the sound level on playing audio always dips, how do i stop this?
any tips greatly received

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:42 am
by DVDdoug
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
What does that mean??? Are you recording something that's not playing???

We need some more details... Are you recording with a microphone? Something plugged into line-in? Streaming audio?

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:26 am
by SteveInHastings
i am recording clips of music that i am already playing on the pc

no mic used, nothing plugged into line-in, audacity picks it up via the stereo mix method i think

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:22 pm
by cyrano
SteveInHastings wrote:i am recording clips of music that i am already playing on the pc
Why would you do that?
no mic used, nothing plugged into line-in, audacity picks it up via the stereo mix method i think
Is there some effect in the player that you would like to record? Or is it to bypass DRM?

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:27 pm
by Gale Andrews
SteveInHastings wrote:i have moved up from a win xp pc with a creative soundblaster card to a new pc with win 10 and on board soundcard/audacity 211.
i have recorded music using audacity but there are issues:
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
If you recorded a song, pressed Stop then recorded another song, the other song is on a second track below the first one. Audacity is a multi-track editor so plays both tracks together. If you wanted both songs in the same track:
  1. Select the second song by clicking above the Mute/Solo buttons on its Track Control Panel (where the sample rate in Hz is shown)
  2. Edit > Cut
  3. Place the cursor at the end of the first song by clicking in it then pressing K
  4. Choose Edit > Paste
  5. Click the [X] track close button top left of the Track Control Panel on the second song.

Next time you record, if you hold SHIFT and click the Record button, you can record at the end of the selected track instead of starting a new track.
SteveInHastings wrote:the quality of recording is poor; very tinny. comparing the original and playback its about 50% drop in quality
You can import the files instead (File > Import > Audio... ). Then you don't lose quality. You can drag-select exactly the piece you want to keep then Edit > Remove Special > Trim Audio. See Tutorial - Editing an Existing Audio File.
SteveInHastings wrote:when i start audacity the sound level on playing audio always dips, how do i stop this?
If you must record the clips, check in Device Toolbar that you are really recording from stereo mix. See Tutorial - Recording Computer Playback on Windows. As you see in that tutorial, you can choose Windows WASAPI loopback recording instead which should be higher quality than stereo mix.

If you still get fading you may have recording enhancements or sound effects enabled. See http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements.


Gale

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:35 pm
by SteveInHastings
cyrano wrote:
SteveInHastings wrote:i am recording clips of music that i am already playing on the pc
Why would you do that?
no mic used, nothing plugged into line-in, audacity picks it up via the stereo mix method i think
Is there some effect in the player that you would like to record?
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why would i not do that? whats wrong with the post - this is a forum for help isn't it?
no effects, just plain and simple recording clips of parts of music but the output is poor quality. that's it.

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:47 pm
by SteveInHastings
Gale Andrews wrote:
SteveInHastings wrote:i have moved up from a win xp pc with a creative soundblaster card to a new pc with win 10 and on board soundcard/audacity 211.
i have recorded music using audacity but there are issues:
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
If you recorded a song, pressed Stop then recorded another song, the other song is on a second track below the first one. Audacity is a multi-track editor so plays both tracks together. If you wanted both songs in the same track:
  1. Select the second song by clicking above the Mute/Solo buttons on its Track Control Panel (where the sample rate in Hz is shown)
  2. Edit > Cut
  3. Place the cursor at the end of the first song by clicking in it then pressing K
  4. Choose Edit > Paste
  5. Click the [X] track close button top left of the Track Control Panel on the second song.

Next time you record, if you hold SHIFT and click the Record button, you can record at the end of the selected track instead of starting a new track.
SteveInHastings wrote:the quality of recording is poor; very tinny. comparing the original and playback its about 50% drop in quality
You can import the files instead (File > Import > Audio... ). Then you don't lose quality. You can drag-select exactly the piece you want to keep then Edit > Remove Special > Trim Audio. See Tutorial - Editing an Existing Audio File.
SteveInHastings wrote:when i start audacity the sound level on playing audio always dips, how do i stop this?
If you must record the clips, check in Device Toolbar that you are really recording from stereo mix. See Tutorial - Recording Computer Playback on Windows. As you see in that tutorial, you can choose Windows WASAPI loopback recording instead which should be higher quality than stereo mix.

If you still get fading you may have recording enhancements or sound effects enabled. See http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements.


Gale
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hi thx for tips.
i only want to record one track at a time but sometimes get 2 at a time. how do i do only this?
what do i select after File > Import > Audio...?
cannot use WASAPI, i get error - check sound device. so i use MME, Stereo Mix and RealTek onboard soundcard settings
thx

Re: problems recording

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:19 pm
by SteveInHastings
Gale Andrews wrote:
SteveInHastings wrote:i have moved up from a win xp pc with a creative soundblaster card to a new pc with win 10 and on board soundcard/audacity 211.
i have recorded music using audacity but there are issues:
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
If you recorded a song, pressed Stop then recorded another song, the other song is on a second track below the first one. Audacity is a multi-track editor so plays both tracks together. If you wanted both songs in the same track:
  1. Select the second song by clicking above the Mute/Solo buttons on its Track Control Panel (where the sample rate in Hz is shown)
  2. Edit > Cut
  3. Place the cursor at the end of the first song by clicking in it then pressing K
  4. Choose Edit > Paste
  5. Click the [X] track close button top left of the Track Control Panel on the second song.

Next time you record, if you hold SHIFT and click the Record button, you can record at the end of the selected track instead of starting a new track.
SteveInHastings wrote:the quality of recording is poor; very tinny. comparing the original and playback its about 50% drop in quality
You can import the files instead (File > Import > Audio... ). Then you don't lose quality. You can drag-select exactly the piece you want to keep then Edit > Remove Special > Trim Audio. See Tutorial - Editing an Existing Audio File.
SteveInHastings wrote:when i start audacity the sound level on playing audio always dips, how do i stop this?
If you must record the clips, check in Device Toolbar that you are really recording from stereo mix. See Tutorial - Recording Computer Playback on Windows. As you see in that tutorial, you can choose Windows WASAPI loopback recording instead which should be higher quality than stereo mix.

If you still get fading you may have recording enhancements or sound effects enabled. See http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements.


Gale
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kaz and gale

the version i am using is 2.1.1
its all in the way you type it. really didnt know that full stops were that intrinsic to the query as its quicker to type it in one

Re: problems recording

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:42 pm
by Gale Andrews
SteveInHastings wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:
SteveInHastings wrote:i have moved up from a win xp pc with a creative soundblaster card to a new pc with win 10 and on board soundcard/audacity 211.
i have recorded music using audacity but there are issues:
the recording is of 2 songs at the same time instead of 1 ?
If you recorded a song, pressed Stop then recorded another song, the other song is on a second track below the first one. Audacity is a multi-track editor so plays both tracks together. If you wanted both songs in the same track:
  1. Select the second song by clicking above the Mute/Solo buttons on its Track Control Panel (where the sample rate in Hz is shown)
  2. Edit > Cut
  3. Place the cursor at the end of the first song by clicking in it then pressing K
  4. Choose Edit > Paste
  5. Click the [X] track close button top left of the Track Control Panel on the second song.

Next time you record, if you hold SHIFT and click the Record button, you can record at the end of the selected track instead of starting a new track.
SteveInHastings wrote:the quality of recording is poor; very tinny. comparing the original and playback its about 50% drop in quality
You can import the files instead (File > Import > Audio... ). Then you don't lose quality. You can drag-select exactly the piece you want to keep then Edit > Remove Special > Trim Audio. See Tutorial - Editing an Existing Audio File.
SteveInHastings wrote:when i start audacity the sound level on playing audio always dips, how do i stop this?
If you must record the clips, check in Device Toolbar that you are really recording from stereo mix. See Tutorial - Recording Computer Playback on Windows. As you see in that tutorial, you can choose Windows WASAPI loopback recording instead which should be higher quality than stereo mix.

If you still get fading you may have recording enhancements or sound effects enabled. See http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements.


Gale

i only want to record one track at a time but sometimes get 2 at a time. how do i do only this?
Are you talking about Append-Record (SHIFT-click on the Record button)? If so, click where it says "Hz" to left of the blue waves to select only that track. Then Append Record will only record at the end of that track.

If you simply click Record you will always get a new track.

If you are taking about recording mono (one channel) or stereo (two channels), choose that in Device Toolbar.
SteveInHastings wrote:what do i select after File > Import > Audio...?
Nothing. You can just click Play to play the track. Or drag select the part you want to play, then press play.
SteveInHastings wrote:cannot use WASAPI, i get error - check sound device. so i use MME, Stereo Mix and RealTek onboard soundcard settings
WASAPI loopback works for me in Windows 10.

Try restarting Audacity.

Turn off Transport > Overdub.

Set Device Toolbar to record in stereo.

If you still receive the error, set Audacity project rate (bottom left) to 44100 Hz then choose the playback device in Windows Sound, right-click over the device, choose "Properties", click the "Advanced" tab, then set "Default Format" to 44100 Hz stereo.

You can also try Windows DirectSound host in Audacity, 44100 Hz project rate, but enable both "Exclusive Mode" boxes for the playback device (on the same page of Windows Sound as Default Format). Then it does not matter what sample rate Default Format is set to, as long as it is set to stereo.


Gale

Re: problems recording

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:56 pm
by SteveInHastings
thx Gale

its a better sound now but still needs attention. the bass is a thud echo type sound and not a clean crisp beat like the original

what settings to change for this?