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I know there's already another topic on this but I didn't want to bump it. Is there a way I can make Shepard Tones in Audacity without being limited to that Nyquist plugin? I tried to do it using Generate Sine, Time/Pitch stretch, Fade in/out and repeat. It hasn't worked, but I was probably doing something wrong.

Yes it's possible, but quite tricky.
You can use the "Chirp" generator to create the sweeping tones (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/ge ... html#chirp), then use either the envelope tool (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/envelope_tool.html) or the Adjustable Fade effect (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/ad ... _fade.html) to apply the necessary amplitude changes.

Some ready-made Shepard tones available on Freesound ...

http://www.freesound.org/search/?q=shepard

http://www.freesound.org/people/digifis ... acks/4195/

Trebor wrote:Some ready-made Shepard tones available on Freesound ...

http://www.freesound.org/search/?q=shepard

http://www.freesound.org/people/digifis ... acks/4195/

Yes but I want to experiment!

steve wrote:Yes it's possible, but quite tricky.
You can use the "Chirp" generator to create the sweeping tones (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/ge ... html#chirp), then use either the envelope tool (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/envelope_tool.html) or the Adjustable Fade effect (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/ad ... _fade.html) to apply the necessary amplitude changes.

I must be doing something wrong then. Used the chirp generator to make two tracks: one starting at 880 hz and 0 db fading to 440 hz and 1 db, and the other starting at 440 hz and 1 db and fading to 220 hz and 0 db. I mixed the two tracks and then repeated it once but it didn't work.

The simplest way is to make one track for each octave interval, and generate logarithmic chirps with a range in octaves equal to the number of tracks.
In this example I have 4 tracks, and each track sweeps from 110 Hz to 1760 Hz.

Logarithmic frequency sweeps are required to keep the tones in tune with each other (they all remain an octave apart throughout).

Each labelled region marks one octave in the bottom track:
110 - 220 Hz
220 - 440 Hz
440 - 880 Hz
880 - 1760 Hz

Note that in the final labelled section (marked "Loop this part"), all 4 octaves are present.
Here is a compressed copy of the project for you to examine.

That works! I tried to produce the same effect without having to trim clips but couldn't. Why is that?

in3D wrote:That works! I tried to produce the same effect without having to trim clips but couldn't. Why is that?

I'd guess that it is because you're not doing something right

If you describe, step by step, exactly what you are doing (in sufficient detail so that we can reproduce it exactly), then we may be able to see what you are doing wrong.

OK!

1. Generate logarithmic, sine chirp from 0 db 1760 hz to 0.25 db 880 hz in 10 seconds.
2. Generate an identical chirp from 0.25 db 880 hz to 0.5 db 440 hz.
3. 0.5 db 440 hz to 0.25 db 220 hz.
4. 0.25 db 220 hz to 0 db 110 hz.
5. Mix and render.
6. Apply repeat effect 1 time.
7. Click that line in between the two clips to make it disappear.

That seems to work reasonably well for me, but to avoid getting a click at the join you may need to trim a little from the end of tracks so that all the tracks end on rising zero crossing points:

Ah yes thank you!