Fixing clicking in existing recording

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Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by wombatzoner » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:55 pm

I recently made a recording from my mixer using Audacity 2.0.6 and the line-in jack on my laptop and during editing I discovered the audio file began developing a strange clicking noise whenever someone is actually speaking. The problem begins towards the end of the recording (about 100 minutes into a 2-hour recording session) and was was not present in the source (I was monitoring the mix over headphones attached to the mixer). It starts intermittently then increases in frequency of occurrence, becoming very distracting. I've attached a sample to this post.

I think the cause was the laptop starting an update or some other disk-intensive activity in the background towards the end of the recording session. I've taken steps to prevent that from happening in future sessions, but I'd like to salvage the first recording if possible.

Is there any good way to remove the clicking noise, or is that portion of the recording going to be a complete write off at this point?
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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by kozikowski » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:49 am

That's not casual popping, is it? That's motorcycle ignition running through the show. I don't think even the vinyl pop and click software will help, but we'll wait for he other elves.

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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by steve » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:05 am

wombatzoner wrote:I'd like to salvage the first recording if possible.
I'm going with "not possible", unless you fancy applying the Repair effect for every 52 milliseconds of damaged audio. The Repair effect can fix it pretty well (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/repair.html), but you will need to do that about 2400 times for a 20 minute section.
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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by steve » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:06 am

wombatzoner wrote:I've taken steps to prevent that from happening in future sessions,
Out of interest - what steps did you take, and did it work?
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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:20 pm

steve wrote:
wombatzoner wrote:I'd like to salvage the first recording if possible.
I'm going with "not possible", unless you fancy applying the Repair effect for every 52 milliseconds of damaged audio. The Repair effect can fix it pretty well (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/repair.html), but you will need to do that about 2400 times for a 20 minute section.
Sounds like a good use case to figure a way for Repair to detect the damaged sections itself so it can then be run on the entire selection.

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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by wombatzoner » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:37 am

steve wrote:
wombatzoner wrote:I've taken steps to prevent that from happening in future sessions,
Out of interest - what steps did you take, and did it work?
If we use the laptop for recording again my plan is to verify there are no pending updates waiting to download in the background and make sure Steam, Google Hangouts and any other unneeded background apps are closed. I'm fairly certain it was Steam that torpedoed me, as I think it prompted to restart for a client update shortly after we finished recording which would imply it was downloading the update in the background during the recording. I haven't had a chance to test this yet, as we haven't had to do a recording anywhere near as long as this one again yet.

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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by waxcylinder » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:10 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:Sounds like a good use case to figure a way for Repair to detect the damaged sections itself so it can then be run on the entire selection.
That's what Brian Davies' ClickRepair does 8-)

Despite Koz' misgivings earlier in this thread I ran the posted sample through ClickRepair and it gave pretty god results (using mu softened default settings that I used for my vinyl transfers):
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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by steve » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:16 pm

waxcylinder wrote:Despite Koz' misgivings earlier in this thread I ran the posted sample through ClickRepair and it gave pretty god results
I'm not sure that I'd describe it as "god results", but it's an admirable attempt ;)
It still sounds a bit weird, kind of "bubbly", but much less distracting than the original.
(prevention is definitely a better solution than fixing in post processing)
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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by wombatzoner » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:18 pm

waxcylinder wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:Sounds like a good use case to figure a way for Repair to detect the damaged sections itself so it can then be run on the entire selection.
That's what Brian Davies' ClickRepair does 8-)

Despite Koz' misgivings earlier in this thread I ran the posted sample through ClickRepair and it gave pretty god results (using mu softened default settings that I used for my vinyl transfers):
AudioProblemExample-1-cr.wav
See this sticky thread re. ClickRepair: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1994
:shock:

:lol: Thank you very much. I know what my next software purchase is going to be.

What were the exact settings you used, if you don't mind my asking?
steve wrote:
waxcylinder wrote:Despite Koz' misgivings earlier in this thread I ran the posted sample through ClickRepair and it gave pretty god results
I'm not sure that I'd describe it as "god results", but it's an admirable attempt ;)
It still sounds a bit weird, kind of "bubbly", but much less distracting than the original.
True, but it's so much closer to serviceable than what I was starting with, I think I can live with it. I've heard stranger on podcasts where one of the speakers was coming in on Skype. I figure if I preface it with a brief explanation to the listeners of what happened, that should work.
steve wrote:(prevention is definitely a better solution than fixing in post processing)
Agreed. As cool as the ClickRepair tool appears to be, I'm definitely going to try to keep from putting myself in a situation where I need it again.

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Re: Fixing clicking in existing recording

Post by waxcylinder » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:59 am

wombatzoner wrote:What were the exact settings you used, if you don't mind my asking?
*DeClick = 30 (default is 50)
*Pitch Protection = "on" (default is "off") though leave this "off" for brass recordings
*Reverse = "on" (there is no processing penalty for this and it helps on percussive music)
*Method = Wavelet

These settings worked well for most of my LPs - a few needed a bit more oomph - a very few needed manual repair when the damaged section was too big.

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