Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO202

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Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO202

Post by Vetoe » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:35 am

Hi,

I recently purchased an Asus laptop which came with Windows 8. I tried recording directly to Audacity and had no luck. Well actually I heard the recording real faintly. I had all the levels turned up on my mixer/ audacity/ and through the sound profile menu. I was told by a friend that I needed a sound card or audio interface. I went out and bought a Behringer UFO202. I installed the updated driver from Behringer's site, but I am getting nothing. I would appreciate any info you guys could give me. Thanks a bunch. - Mike

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by DVDdoug » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:42 am

What are you trying to record? ...What have you plugged into the UFO202? The UFO202 has a switch to select either a phono cartridge or a line-level input.

Make sure you've selected the USB device as your Recording Device.

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by Vetoe » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:21 pm

Thanks a bunch! I actually just found the problem this morning. It was a bad RCA cable. I'm a DJ and I'm recording straight from a mixer from 2 turntables. I do have a question though, should I switch to phono on the UFO202 or should it be line. It is a mixer so I would assume line, but phono did sound louder?

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:12 pm

Vetoe wrote:Thanks a bunch! I actually just found the problem this morning. It was a bad RCA cable. I'm a DJ and I'm recording straight from a mixer from 2 turntables. I do have a question though, should I switch to phono on the UFO202 or should it be line. It is a mixer so I would assume line, but phono did sound louder?
I'd say line, assuming you are going into phono inputs on the mixer so getting RIAA playback EQ. You want that EQ to come from somewhere unless you are going to apply it in Audacity's Equalization effect.

One point made in the UFO 202 manual is that their phono inputs only support moving magnet cartridges.


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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by Vetoe » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:27 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
Vetoe wrote:Thanks a bunch! I actually just found the problem this morning. It was a bad RCA cable. I'm a DJ and I'm recording straight from a mixer from 2 turntables. I do have a question though, should I switch to phono on the UFO202 or should it be line. It is a mixer so I would assume line, but phono did sound louder?
I'd say line, assuming you are going into phono inputs on the mixer so getting RIAA playback EQ. You want that EQ to come from somewhere unless you are going to apply it in Audacity's Equalization effect.

One point made in the UFO 202 manual is that their phono inputs only support moving magnet cartridges.


Gale
Thank you Gale. You know I did see that about the phono inputs only supporting the moving magnet cartridges. Sorry, I guess I will have to play with levels on the line once I hook up the new RCA cables. Thanks again I really appreciate your help.

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by kozikowski » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:16 am

If you're using a disco mixer with two, for example SL1200s, you should have the UFO-202 set to Line rather than Phono. The output of the mixer should be flat, correct audio set for delivery to the sound system... or Audacity.

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:47 pm

kozikowski wrote:If you're using a disco mixer with two, for example SL1200s, you should have the UFO-202 set to Line rather than Phono. The output of the mixer should be flat, correct audio set for delivery to the sound system... or Audacity.
I don't know so I'm asking - where does the RIAA EQ get applied if the mixer input does not do it?

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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by steve » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:03 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:I don't know so I'm asking - where does the RIAA EQ get applied if the mixer input does not do it?
Many DJ decks have a pre-amp with RIAA Equalization built in. The outputs are then "flat" line level outputs.
Frequently DJ decks will have both "phono" (low level with not RIAA EQ) and "Line" (higher level with RIAA EQ already applied). This may be two sets of sockets (marked "phono" or "line"), or a switch. The user selects which to use according to the inputs of the device that they are connecting it to.
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Re: Not able to record using Asus Laptop and Behringer UFO20

Post by kozikowski » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:59 pm

Many DJ decks have a pre-amp with RIAA Equalization built in.
What he said.

A dance mixer will sound immediately terrible if you get it wrong and your headphone feed should, too, even though they're not the same feed. The object is to move the audience, sometimes literally, with bass notes. You wouldn't last fifteen seconds listening to raw RIAA.

I don't know how they handle it when the performer uses 1200 Something Else, where "something else" is a digital version of a turntable. I've seen those. they're cute (after a few false design starts). We assume those come out flat and not RIAA, although they would have to make some provision of putting a real, hardware, vinyl 1200 on one side and a digital 1200 on the other. Anybody with an older mixer will not be able to switch.

I was shopping at my Barnes and Noble recently and I dropped into their vinyl department [stunned silence].

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