Recording Problems

[cosmiclight22]

Hi gale, Thank you so much,

I want to make sure I understand first: if I back them up, will the newer version be able to read /open the older files, since you wrote:

Almost certainly they will open OK in 2.0.6, but make a backup copy of the projects first just in case. To do that, copy the AUP and _data folder for that project, create a new folder, then paste
By" almost certainly: meaning that you are not totally sure, correct? What happens to the older files when people upgrade? Do people have to throw away the older files?

There must be other people who also created files with the older Audacity and then upgraded to the newer? I am sure I am not the only one, do you know if there is a section dedicated to this subject here, or if there something in the tutorials about it? This information must be somewhere??? Or Should I maybe post this question somewhere else in the Forum, would you plz advice to where?
I need to be certain, because all my work is saved in the old version and that means, that if it is not certain 100% I have lost everything

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Now, lets assume that I would be able to save them and open them, and I want to make sure I udnerstand this too:
when I save the data from old version:
1. Do I need to save both the data folder connected to the Audacity file, and the file (each project) itself?
2. Or I can just save the data folder only -and the recorded project with same name, will automatically be saved too? Yes? No?

3. When you say to "save all in another folder" -do you mean that I can transfer all of the data folders (related to each individual project) in one new folder?
or that I have to create another new folder for each of the Audacity data folder? (hope not)

4. also, when you say COPY AND PASTE, do you mean DRAG AND DROP the Audacity files in another folder, correct?
Or did you mean i have to open each project, select and copy each track and then paste them somewhere else? I do not know not how to do that, I hope we are talking about DRAG AND DROPPING the files ???

5. You are saying that I do not need to transfer or save in a new folder, all the extra plug ins, correct? just leave them there in the old audacity program, not touch them at all? Yes? No?

6. But my concern is, BY UNINSTALLING the old Audacity program, wont all those plug ins (all those PDF format and Zip format plug ins) that I dragged and dropped into the old Audacity plug ins folder, be uninstalled too and disappear???? No? Yes?

Thank you so much again, I know is a lot of questions, sorry for that
Anna

[Gale Andrews]

I want to make sure I understand first: if I back them up, will the newer version be able to read /open the older files, since you wrote:

Almost certainly they will open OK in 2.0.6, but make a backup copy of the projects first just in case. To do that, copy the AUP and _data folder for that project, create a new folder, then paste
By" almost certainly: meaning that you are not totally sure, correct? What happens to the older files when people upgrade? Do people have to throw away the older files?

Generally speaking if you merely open a 1.2 project in 2.x and don't save it in 2.x, 1.2 can still open the project. But if you save a 1.2 project in 2.x, even if it saves correctly, 1.2 won't be able to open it again, because the 2.x file system is different.

Audacity 1.2 also had a bug that meant it could occasionally write AU data files larger than the expected maximum size of 1 MB. If that does happen, Audacity 2.x will not read the project correctly. Although the data will be retained, the data files that are over 1 MB will appear as silence in the waves, and 1.2 won't then be able to read the project again either, even if you don't save it in 2.x.

So the idea of the backup is just to cover the very rare cases where you might open the 1.2 project in 2.x and 2.x would corrupt the project, then you would not be able to open it again even in 1.2. If that corruption happened and you had a backup, you would then open the backup in 1.2 and export a WAV file for each track in your project. That overcomes the problem and you can import the WAV file(s) into 2.x and save that as a new project.

Where Audacity 2.x imports a 1.2 project file correctly, you can then delete the AUP file and _data folder for that project from your backups.

when I save the data from old version:
1. Do I need to save both the data folder connected to the Audacity file, and the file (each project) itself?
2. Or I can just save the data folder only -and the recorded project with same name, will automatically be saved too? Yes? No?

3. When you say to "save all in another folder" -do you mean that I can transfer all of the data folders (related to each individual project) in one new folder?
or that I have to create another new folder for each of the Audacity data folder? (hope not)

4. also, when you say COPY AND PASTE, do you mean DRAG AND DROP the Audacity files in another folder, correct?
Or did you mean i have to open each project, select and copy each track and then paste them somewhere else? I do not know not how to do that, I hope we are talking about DRAG AND DROPPING the files ???

No you don't have to open the projects in Audacity to back them up. You can do so, then File > Save Project As... to copy then, but that will be slow for a large number of projects.

I mean copy and paste, as I said.

Drag and drop moves the file or folder if the target folder you are dropping into is on the same drive as the file or folder you are dragging. Drag and drop will only copy if the target folder is on another drive. The tooltip when you drag will say whether you are copying or moving.

So if the target folder is on the same drive, you must copy and paste. Click the first item once to select it, then hold the CTRL key and click once on the other items you want to copy. This selects all the items you clicked on. Then right-click over any of the selected items and select "Copy". You can paste by holding CTRL and pressing V, or by right-clicking in empty space in the target folder and choosing "Paste".

If the AUP files and _data folders to be copied are together in a folder you can save time by clicking once on the first item, then hold SHIFT and click once on the last item. That multiple selects all the items between first and last.

To make it simple I suggest you create one new folder, called "1.2 backup projects" or similar. For each folder where you have Audacity 1.2 projects stored, multiple select all the AUP files and all the _data folders together, as described above. Copy (as above), move to the new folder you created, then paste.

BY UNINSTALLING the old Audacity program, wont all those plug ins (all those PDF format and Zip format plug ins) that I dragged and dropped into the old Audacity plug ins folder, be uninstalled too and disappear????

As I said:

After uninstalling 1.3, any extra plug-ins you added to that version will remain, and you can move them to the "Plug-Ins" folder of the new installation.

The 1.3 uninstaller only removes files it put there itself in the first place.

Yes you will have to then move those plugins you added to the Plug-Ins folder in 2.0.6.


Gale

[cosmiclight22]

Hello
I am not sure this is the correct place to post this question I hope so (if not, could you plz redirect me, thanks)
After downloading Audacity 2.1.3 on my newer laptop, (Windows 7) I am experiencing the following issue
While editing, if I listen to a very small part of the recorded vocals file, (one word or a part of one word) more than one time, out of a sudden, the sound disappears, and I cant hear anything anymore, the volume is dead.so what I have been doing is this:
Uninstall the sound then restart the laptop and automatically Windows re-install the sound all over again
But this is happening every 10 minutes now and I have to restart the pc may times during one hour
I wanted to know if anybody has been having the same problem and/or if you have any tip to prevent this problem from happening again
I was not experiencing this problem with the older Audacity (Beta)
Thanks so much in advance
Ann

[Trebor]

While editing, if I listen to a very small part of the recorded vocals file, (one word or a part of one word) more than one time, out of a sudden, the sound disappears, and I cant hear anything anymore, the volume is dead ...

If you have WASAPI selected as the recording device, when you attempt to play-back very short sections, (less than a tenth of a second), there is silence. The solution is to select another recording device other than WASAPI, (even though you're not recording).

[cosmiclight22]

Thank you so much for your reply. No the WASAPI in my Audacity is only listed in the play back devices option, not in the recording option, in the recording devices options or list, there is only USB mic or Windows recording, But in the playback device list, yes I see WASAPi and no, I dont select that option I have selected Window direct sound,
But the problem still occurs, every 5 minutes the sound, while editing (not if I record) while editing, just disappears and have to uninstall and reboot any remedy for this problem, any other possible cause or option to prevent this from happening?
Thank you so much
Ann

[Trebor]

... every 5 minutes the sound, while editing (not if I record) while editing, just disappears and have to uninstall and reboot any remedy for this problem, any other possible cause or option to prevent this from happening?

Are you seeing this type of "Files missing" error message ? ...

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