mandolin sound

[suttlemyre]

lets say I double a guitar trak and take a piece of it and would like to add a higher mandolin type sound , I have tried pitch shift, what are your suggestions. james

[kozikowski]

Play a mandolin? Pitch shift never does what people want because it's very literal. Not only do the notes go up, but the string noise, fingering, environment, slide squeak, echo, etc. all go up, too. This gives a sound like a speeded up record rather than a higher pitched performance.

This is the same reason "make me sound like an announcer/woman/child, etc," fails.

This would work perfectly if we could split a mixed recording into individual parts. That's a feature request for a future Audacity.

Koz

[Trebor]

lets say I double a guitar trak and take a piece of it and would like to add a higher mandolin type sound , I have tried pitch shift, what are your suggestions.

Audacity's other native pitch-shift "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" produces a more musical result than "change pitch"...

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Just leave the tempo parameters on zero , and make the initial and final pitch-shift parameters the same ...

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[DVDdoug]

Of course, a mandolin is not just a high-pitched guitar. It has pairs of strings. its own size & shape, and it has its own timbre.

You might want to look into MIDI. With MIDI you can synthesize almost any instrument, or a whole orchestra if you wish. It can do everything except the lyrics. Most of the background music you hear on TV or in current movies is MIDI. In the old days you had Henry Mancini and His Orchestra... Now it's MIDI. (Audacity does not support MIDI.)

A MIDI file doesn't contain audio... It's just the notes & timing (and some additional information... Something like sheet music for the computer, so the computer knows what instruments to play and what notes to play.

From what I understand, it's hard to get realistic guitar with MIDI, so mandolin may be "difficult" too. But, you should be able to find a decent virtual instrument, especially if you are willing to pay for it...

There will be a bit of a learning curve, but if you want to get a basic idea of what can be done with MIDI, just search the Internet for some free MIDI files, download them, and play them. Your soundcard/driver has a basic MIDI synth and Windows Media Player can play them, so you can play them on your computer without any special software or hardware.

However, it does take special software (a MIDI sequencer or a DAW) to compose & edit MIDI files and to render them to audio (WAV, MP3, etc.). Most MIDI music is created with a MIDI keyboard and then edited on a computer, but it can be done entirely "in the box" (on a computer).