Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by audino » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:17 pm

eager to learn wrote:I looked at Lightworks which is also free but that program presumes you have expedience and are familiar with the nomenclature of video editing so, at least for me, there is a steep learning curve.
I presume that that program is for people who already have at least some non-linear video editing skills not to mention that you'll need an adequate computer so I would suggest for now you leave it because that would be a too high learning curve.
I'm not familiar with Virtualdub? Is that another sound editing program like Audacity?
It can do great things but I think that I gave you too many options as you'll have another learning curve to deal with.
Just play with Videopad or Movie Maker for now because they are easy to use and you'll enjoy working on your file while learning non-linear video editing.

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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:53 pm

Since no one else offered, here is a 34.78s version.

Given the end of the song is in a higher key than the start, it sounded terrible to me to crossfade 17 seconds in from the start with 17 seconds from the end, so I just faded out then faded in.

I also made the first few seconds quieter, tried to remove some of the distortion with Clip Fix and reduce the bass/brighten the treble a little. I am not sure if it sounds better than masking the distortion with bass as it was. So I will do it once more with the original EQ and distortion if required.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uycb86isc4y27 ... 34.78s.WAV


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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by eager to learn » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:48 pm

Gale,

I so appreciate you removing the noise - that really helps.

The problem is there is a click sound just as the video portion ends and the endings credit begin to roll down.

I think that click may be the sound of the point-and-click camera shutting off.

So, the video ends followed immediate by a loud click and then the music ends and there there is this awkward second or two before the ending credits start to roll and the music starts again.

I have such a profound and deep respect for aduio and video editors after this little project.

Boy, do they make it seem easy when its anything other.

Is there anything that could be adjusted with this audio?

Thank you ever so much and my apologies to Patsy - who, BTW, never wanted to do this song!

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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:38 pm

I haven't removed any steady noise (hiss), but used Clip Fix to guess at and add back (as best it can) the samples lost where the recording is above the 0 dB distortion level.

I heard the click at the end of the audio, but I assure you I did not add it, it' s in the original file. Are you saying you want the click masked or silenced?

Are you saying there is a video soundtrack after all that has a click in it? If so, you can mute that soundtrack and use the Audacity audio instead.

While we are at it, must we use that distorted copy of the audio? It sounds more like a man singing it.
eager to learn wrote:the video ends followed immediate by a loud click and then the music ends and there there is this awkward second or two before the ending credits start to roll and the music starts again.
What does that mean - that the audio is shorter than the video and Movie Maker starts playing tha audio again from the start?

You specified "34:78 seconds" and I gave you audio lasting exactly 34.780 seconds. If you are not sure how long the video is I suggest you upload the video somewhere so we can measure its length accurately.


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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by eager to learn » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:19 pm

Hi Gale,

I'm not sure exactly where the loud click originated.

Maybe it was from the video recorded on the point-and-shoot camera?

I think it's more likely that it's from the original audio music recording which was taken from an analog cassette tape I had of the music and then digitized with Audacity and then that one song was edited out from the whole cassette tape and saved as it's own .wav file recording.

I then added that single file recording to the video in MM.

Anyway, as the video (not including the opening and closing credits) ends you can hear a discernible click and then there's a second or two of silence and then the music resumes as the ending credits roll.

The "34:78 seconds" is from the instant the opening credits roll through the video through the end of the ending rolling credits. Whole project - start to finish is 34:78 seconds.

I just need that loud click silenced or removed and then the music to play continuously from the instant the opening credits start through the end of the ending credits non-stop with no pauses or interruptions.

Is that possible or is that a lot? I've never sound edited for a video so I'm not sure.

Thank you so very much!

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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:58 am

eager to learn wrote:As the video (not including the opening and closing credits) ends you can hear a discernible click and then there's a second or two of silence and then the music resumes as the ending credits roll.

The "34:78 seconds" is from the instant the opening credits roll through the video through the end of the ending rolling credits. Whole project - start to finish is 34:78 seconds.
Those two statements are obviously contradictory. If the video is really 34.780 seconds long then the audio matches exactly. The audio would not restart or click a few seconds before 34.780 seconds unless the video has its own soundtrack which you haven't muted (or unless you have not aligned the replacement audio correctly).
eager to learn wrote:I just need that loud click silenced or removed and then the music to play continuously from the instant the opening credits start through the end of the ending credits non-stop with no pauses or interruptions.
Please just upload the video as it is now, and say whether or not you insist on using the distorted audio track you already uploaded.


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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by eager to learn » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:50 pm

It depends on how you define "video."

If you define video as everything that's seen visually then that would include opening credits + subject(s) shot + closing credits.

The whole "project" = opening credits + subject(s) shot + closing credits totals 34:78 seconds.

The "soundtrack" that you kindly edited I was able to download but there is a point where the music fades down low and then resumes at a higher level.

I'm trying to achieve a soundtrack where the music level remains at the same level without fading in and out.

I'm not sure hot to achieve that.

I'm not comfortable sharing the footage shot on the internet. There are far too many miscreants and evildoers out there.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Editing a song with video and Movie Maker

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:50 pm

eager to learn wrote:I'm not comfortable sharing the footage shot on the internet.
Fair enough, but you could use GMail to send the video to my Gmail address . Use Winzip or 7-Zip to zip the video. If the zipped size is over 25 MB (unlikely for 35 seconds) then you will have to insert it from Google Drive (see the above link).
eager to learn wrote:The "soundtrack" that you kindly edited I was able to download but there is a point where the music fades down low and then resumes at a higher level. I'm trying to achieve a soundtrack where the music level remains at the same level without fading in and out.
You were given an audio file that was exactly the length you asked for (which length you said included the intro and outro). The audio was faded out and faded in exactly as you asked for. See http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 42#p248742 .

If the song starts playing over again in the video before the video finishes, then that is either because you told us the wrong length of the video, or you have not got the start of the audio aligned with the start of the video. or you have chosen to speed up the audio. You can fix the last two problems in Movie Maker, or use some other video editor.

If the audio is the correct length, aligned correctly and not speed-changed (that is, if the song finishes exactly when the video ends) , and you don't want a fade out and fade in, what exactly do you want? If you want only the first 34.78 seconds of the song at full volume right until you cut it short, are you able to do that yourself?

Or do you want the first 34.78 seconds with a single fade out (drop in volume to silence) at the end?




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