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Hello,

I'm having some issues with compressor, I have the default one that comes with Audacity, and I have installed the Plugin Pack from download

In short, SC1-4 and Compressor can't catch very fast spikes/transients even though I set attack times to as fast as possible. No, I didn't put too short decays, and yes, I'm trying to get those down with a strong comp. ratios.

The only thing that kinda works is Hard Limiter, but that one is very sensitive...

So we have a "it is just me, or, no, it's not you, go to KVR and download something" situation.

Personally I like the SC-4 compressor, but you're right, it does not catch the transients (fast attack peaks). In that way it is much like "old school" hardware compressors and has a lot of creative potential, but not good if you want to stop the peaks going too high.

The built in compressor effect works pretty well, but it is quirky and takes a bit of getting used to. This compressor is a "look ahead" compressor - it looks ahead for peaks before they happen, and adjusts the gain in advance. Thus it does catch all of the peaks, no matter how fast they occur. Details can be found in the manual: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/compressor.html

The "Hard Limiter" can be useful, but you need to be careful with it. How it works is to "chop off" the tops of the highest peaks, and then has an option to add back a reduced version (the "residual") so as to reduce the amount of distortion. It can work quite well on snare drum and similar types of sound. Like "tape saturation" it will limit the peaks and add a controlled amount of distortion. If you want to avoid distortion, don't use this effect.

The difference between a "compressor" and a "limiter" is the time scale. A compressor will adjust the "gain" (amplification) gradually so as to reduce the dynamic range, whereas a limiter will adjust the gain very rapidly. In extreme cases (such as the "Hard limiter" and the "Leveler" effect, the gain is adjusted instantaneously. The down side of "instantaneous" gain adjustment is that it creates distortion. (I strongly don't recommend using the "Leveler" as a compressor effect - it creates far too much distortion - can be useful as a distortion effect though.)

Both compressors and limiters tend to have "character". Although they are all doing pretty much the same thing, the "sound" of the effect can vary greatly from one effect to another. Compressors and limiters are quite a long way on the "arty" side of the art/science divide

The "Limiter (2)" plug-in here should be quite easy to work with: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... er_.282.29
Installation instructions: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Downl ... g_Plug-ins
Unlike "Hard Limiter", this limiter will produce very little distortion.

A popular compressor is "Chris's dynamic compressor" (available here: http://theaudacitytopodcast.com/chriss- ... -audacity/)
This too is quite quirky, but has the big selling point (but it's free ) that it works much like the compressors they use on radio stations. It reduces the dynamic range quite effectively without sounding like an "effect".

steve wrote:The built in compressor effect works pretty well, but it is quirky and takes a bit of getting used to. This compressor is a "look ahead" compressor - it looks ahead for peaks before they happen, and adjusts the gain in advance. Thus it does catch all of the peaks, no matter how fast they occur. Details can be found in the manual: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/compressor.html

I never had any luck with it, it's attack is even slower than SCx Compressors

steve wrote:The "Limiter (2)" plug-in here should be quite easy to work with: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... er_.282.29
Installation instructions: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Downl ... g_Plug-ins
Unlike "Hard Limiter", this limiter will produce very little distortion.

A popular compressor is "Chris's dynamic compressor" (available here: http://theaudacitytopodcast.com/chriss- ... -audacity/)
This too is quite quirky, but has the big selling point (but it's free ) that it works much like the compressors they use on radio stations. It reduces the dynamic range quite effectively without sounding like an "effect".

This I shall try. Why are they (at least the "Limiter (2)") not included in the plug-ins package?

2mg wrote:Why are they (at least the "Limiter (2)") not included in the plug-ins package?

There are lots of effects that could be included with Audacity, but the current list of effects is already quite long. Personally I think that a proper Limiter effect should be included as standard. Feel free to make a request here: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewforum.php?f=20

2mg wrote:I never had any luck with it, it's attack is even slower than SCx Compressors

The appropriate "speed" of a compressor depends on what sort of compression effect you are trying to achieve. You've not said what "the job" is.

steve wrote:The appropriate "speed" of a compressor depends on what sort of compression effect you are trying to achieve. You've not said what "the job" is.

Mostly it's a quick and dirty "eliminate transients and normalize" for mp3s that are "messed up"...

2mg wrote:Mostly it's a quick and dirty "eliminate transients and normalize" for mp3s that are "messed up"...

I'd guess that "Limiter (2)" should do that nicely. Give it a go and let us know how you get on.

It might be a while, I don't have spare time right now for audio stuff, but your just popped in to say your replies are appreciated!