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Re: guitar rig 5 dll cannot be detected in audacity effect
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:11 pm
by LenB
More detailed reading of your FAQ and inspection of my system and its files suggests that my Guitar rig problem is related to me having an 64 bit version on Native Instruments installed, including 64 bit Guitar rig.
However it did work at first! It has just unfortunately stopped doing so.
Will audacity work with some other form of vst bridging software such as j-bridge?
Len
Re: guitar rig 5 dll cannot be detected in audacity effect
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:40 pm
by Gale Andrews
LenB wrote:The vst causing the initial crash was dfx Geometrer. Downloaded so long ago I no longer know where from, but google helped me refind it here:
http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/ All the other dfx fx work well and still work well with audacity.
LenB wrote:Final - I have just tried using Geometer again, and it works just fine in audacity at present
Thanks, yes I find it tends to crash the first time or two in the operating system session, then it's OK. I filed a bug report here:
http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998.
That plugin is very old. It crashes the first time or two in an older version of Wavosaur too. In the latest Wavosaur, it does not crash, but the effect sliders have no handles.
Gale
Re: guitar rig 5 dll cannot be detected in audacity effect
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:50 pm
by Gale Andrews
LenB wrote:More detailed reading of your FAQ and inspection of my system and its files suggests that my Guitar rig problem is related to me having an 64 bit version on Native Instruments installed, including 64 bit Guitar rig.
However it did work at first! It has just unfortunately stopped doing so.
If you have the 64-bit versions of Guitar Rig they should never load from the Effect Menu.
LenB wrote:Will audacity work with some other form of vst bridging software such as j-bridge?
I can't see any evidence online that Audacity definitely accepts jBridge wrapping. Feel free to try it and report back, but I would simply install or reinstall the 32-bit versions of Guitar Rig. And try it with the dfx Geometer.dll moved to your Desktop where Audacity won't find it.
Gale
Re: guitar rig 5 dll cannot be detected in audacity effect
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:21 pm
by LenB
Tried j-Bridge with audacity - no joy. Bridged files were recognised on startup, but did not appear in the effects menu.
I'm unable to find out whether I can have a dual 32 and 64 bit installation of Guitar rig. I have a full suite of NI products all installed in 64 bit versions, so I am reluctant to mess with that.
Is there a 64 bit version of Audacity on the way? Otherwise I will make do with 32 bit freeware effects. Just adds an extra layer of complexity to using multiple effects for my purpose, which is glitching and reprocessing digital photographs by importing them into audacity, processing them through audio effects, and then taking them back into digital art manipulation software for further work.
I wanted to use Guitar rig because of its comprehensive set of effects and presets, and because there is a clear relationship between what happens to the picture and the audio effect used. For example bass/Treble spread the colour spectrum, delay creates multiple displaced overlaid images. It's intriguing.
Some of my initial experiments can be found here:
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/l3nb
Thanks for your help and advice - I think we have got as far as we can.
LenB
Re: guitar rig 5 dll cannot be detected in audacity effect
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:48 pm
by Gale Andrews
LenB wrote:Tried j-Bridge with audacity - no joy. Bridged files were recognised on startup, but did not appear in the effects menu.
I got the
TAL Chorus 64-bit and
W1 Limiter 64-bit to run in Audacity after bridging them, making sure per jBridge recommendations that the original plugins were not in a path that Audacity scans for plugins.
However the demo version of jBridge is of no value in Audacity because you cannot apply the effect (at least with those two plugins).
LenB wrote:I'm unable to find out whether I can have a dual 32 and 64 bit installation of Guitar rig. I have a full suite of NI products all installed in 64 bit versions, so I am reluctant to mess with that.
That doesn't really explain why Guitar Rig worked once in Audacity. Are you sure Geometer is outr of the way where Audacity can't find it?
LenB wrote:Is there a 64 bit version of Audacity on the way?
Not for Windows or Mac. Audacity is 64-bit on Linux if installed on a 64-bit system, but you would need to find 64-bit plugins for Linux that do what you want.
Gale