Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

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Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by timmib » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:04 pm

Greetings,

I use audacity to convert tape and vinyl to digital, mainly audio cd. I'm running win xp pro sp3 on a gigabyte mb with a 3.x amd processor and 4+gigs of ram. I have had no problems with audacity 1.2.6. I was wondering what, if any, peculiarities I might run into in switching. I've spent the last hour or so going thru the FAQ and the manual, reading odds and ends in the forums and the wiki. Seems like it should be straight forward shift on my part. I rarely use project files so there should be no problems there. Most work is done in wav stereo format; I use cdex to convert to mp3 when needed. Any thing I should be looking out for? Too, can I run both versions on the same machine, not simultaneously!!

TIA.

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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by kozikowski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:12 pm

Why are you upgrading?
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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by timmib » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:13 pm

Greetings Koz,

Main reason for upgrading is to retain effect settings and/or establish presets. Too, it's been awhile and wanted to tryout some of the refinements.

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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by kozikowski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:29 pm

retain effect settings and/or establish presets.
That's a reason for not upgrading.
it's been awhile and wanted to tryout some of the refinements.
They won't be refinements with that big a jump. There's going to be some tools and interfaces that you can't find and some settings that are very different now.

I think there's a way to install one Audacity as a "portable" install and keep the other one. I need to look. Or wait for the other elves.

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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by kozikowski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:34 pm


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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by timmib » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:01 pm

retain effect settings and/or establish presets.
kozikowski wrote:That's a reason for not upgrading.
Greetings Koz,

Hum ... I have been reading the change notes for years to keep up on its evolution while the site kept saying something like, " ... not suitable for production ..." or some such. The feature that had caught my attention was the ability to save different effect settings as presets. For instance I would have one for 'rca red label', another for 'retail store label'. or another for '78 pre 54'. Are you implying that effect presets are not in 2.x?

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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:35 pm

When we had 1.3 Beta it was regarded as "unstable" and 1.2 was still the "stable" version, but with the release of 2.0.0, all 2.0.x versions are regarded as "stable".

Koz meant that there will be program settings added and removed in 2.0.x. If you don't reset preferences when you install 2.0.5 then your 1.2 settings will persist where it's a setting that still exists in 2.0.5.

EQ presets are still in 2.0.5.

Effects shortcuts were added in 2.0.1 and are still in 2.0.5:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Relea ... provements .

Not all built-in effects have presets - most do not.


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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by timmib » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Effects shortcuts were added in 2.0.1 and are still in 2.0.5:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Relea ... provements .

Not all built-in effects have presets - most do not.
Greetings Gale,

I guess my reading of version histories should have been termed "wishfull thinking" <g> Oh well. Still, the time wandering through the forums and wiki has been enjoyable. A good place to hangout!

I had presumed there would be a *lot* of changes to the program options and such. Still, I'm wondering what your thoughts are about upgrading. Have effect filters changed, for instance? I like Audacity and recommend it to any who want to 'transcribe' analog to digital. It's been a solid, reliable work horse for me and produces wonderful results from all the sources I've had to work with.

Thanks for your answer-back.

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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by steve » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:17 pm

Audacity 2.0.5 (the current version) has a huge number of new and improved features compared with the old 1.2.6 version.
There are far too many to list here, but a few highlights:
New Reverb effect.
New "Paulstretch" effect.
New "Bass and Treble" effect.
Improved "Change Pitch" effect.
Improved "Noise Removal" effect.
New "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" effect.
New "Studio Fade Out" effect.
New "Adjustable Fade" effect.
New "Sample Data Export" (analysis tool).
Improved "Plot Spectrum".
Greatly improved VST support.
Support for multiple audio clips in each audio track.
New "WASAPI loopback" recording.
New "Align Tracks" commands.
New "Sync Lock" feature.
Automated "Crash Recovery".
Fast "On Demand" import of WAV/AIFF file types.
Improved accessibility for visually impaired users.
New "Chain" effects.
Improved resampling quality.
and many more.

Because of the vastly increased functionality, you may find that Audacity 2,x is a bit "heavier" (more demanding on computer resources) than the old 1.2.6 version, but that should not be a problem unless you are working on a very old or seriously low powered computer.
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Re: Moving from 1.2.6 to 2.0.5 questions.

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:35 pm

timmib wrote:
Effects shortcuts were added in 2.0.1 and are still in 2.0.5:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Relea ... provements .

Not all built-in effects have presets - most do not.
I guess my reading of version histories should have been termed "wishfull thinking"
Is "more effects should have presets" what you are looking for? I read what you wrote as you wanted Equalisation presets, and 2.0.5 has those: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/equalization.html .
timmib wrote:I had presumed there would be a *lot* of changes to the program options and such.
There have been a fair number of added or removed program preferences, but the point is that unless you reset preferences in the 2.0.x installer, Audacity will still use 1.2 values for those preferences that still exist in 2.0.x. If you want factory preferences for 2.0.x, use "Reset Preferences" in the installer.

To see how different the 2.0.5 preferences are, look at each Preferences window on http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/preferences.html .
timmib wrote:I'm wondering what your thoughts are about upgrading.
Your call, but there is no technical support for 1.2 or 1.3 now. You're on your own if you have questions or problems.

2.0.x is slower than 1.2 in several respects. It's not solely a question of a larger memory footprint in 2.0.x and 1.2 being quicker on underpowered machines.

It's a question of changes and new features which have not been properly optimised for projects longer than an hour or so.

But there are many things in 2.0.x that are much easier to do or which no longer have bugs.
timmib wrote: Have effect filters changed
See Steve's answer, read the README.txt or read: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Categ ... ease_Notes .

Directly affecting you, there is no separate FFT Filter - it's merged into Equalization.


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