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Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:59 pm
by Gale Andrews
LowBassDub wrote:I came across this thread when I was trying to figure out if they had finally put multi channel playback capability in Audacity or not. I'm guessing not, so make this my vote to add this feature.
Noted.
LowBassDub wrote:if you could select 4 channels in the preferences and have it record just the first four channels. After every recording I have to close all the twelve tracks I didn't use before saving to avoid wasting disk space.
Noted. We have a patch for this, but the feature required editing the audacity.cfg settings file and the developer who wrote it has lost interest in making an interface for the settings.
Are you on Windows and if so did you compile Audacity to add ASIO support? If so, you could probably build the patch at
http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 56&t=71178 . There is also a Windows binary there but it is an old alpha version of Audacity.
Gale
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:37 pm
by steve
pfeuh wrote:Hello,
I bought the Soundcraft mixer, it's a real pleasure to use it. I use an old Cubase to send the tracks (same way as you, 4 stereo bus), but it's really boring to "export multiple" from Audacity... If some tracks are not starting from instant zero, you have to add a filled with zeros stuff before anything, then you have to synchronise the tracks (Ctrl-A J Shift-K Ctrl-T), after you have to configure all volumes and panpots to zero and then you can export... It's not finish... if you save this project, the audacity mix is lost. It's a kind of punishment but I don't known my fault.

It would be so cool to have this multiple outputs option in Audacity.
Why don't you just export from Audacity as a single multi-channel WAV file, with one audacity track per channel, then import that file into Cubase?
It's quick, simple and you don't need to mess up the Audacity mix.
To do that, "Edit > Preferences > Import / Export" and select "Use custom mix".
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:13 pm
by pfeuh
Hello,
Because I'm a donkey! I don't even know this feature!

I've just checked it. The result is close to the "normal" export multiple. That means that the waves are not "normalized" but exported "as is", if the audacity volume for a track is -30db, it is exported at -30 db. The stereo wave are switched to mono ones. The offset problem is not fixed (I talked about a "stuff before sample", sorry, I have a very poor English). On the hardcopies, the original sample "no sync" is at 45 seconds. The exported one is sticked to the beginning of the wave.

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Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:39 pm
by steve
Looks perfect here. The only thing I need to do after importing is to rejoin the stereo tracks.

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Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:29 pm
by pfeuh

Awesome! It looks perfect! I surely have missed something! Here is my config:

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And what about volume? Automatic 0db?
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:41 pm
by steve
pfeuh wrote:And what about volume? Automatic 0db?
No. The track gain settings are applied before exporting.
The primary purpose of multichannel export is to allow exporting multi-channel (surround) sound files. Obviously for this application users would want the track controls to be honoured, otherwise they won't get what is reasonably expected.
For what it's worth, I think that there should at least be an option to include leading "white space" when using Export Multiple to export multiple tracks. I can add your vote for that feature if you want.
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:57 pm
by pfeuh
For sure, add! Thank you very much. Here is a tune recorded track by track (it's called re-recording). After that, it has been shooted 27 times to have different views. Of course I talk about playback. The mix were done on Audacity too... No effect, no equalization, totally rugged. I've recorded my friends and played the lead guitar. The more easy the software is, the more time I can spend on doing music. Exportation for mix on one click could be a very good thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUEOXm6EI04
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:38 pm
by steve
pfeuh wrote:For sure, add!
Done.
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:50 am
by Gale Andrews
steve wrote:pfeuh wrote:For sure, add!
Done.
This is another of these where there are competing similar requests.
Most folk want a Preference for all mixed down exports
Preserve start-time relative to time zero when exporting (13 votes).
We also had specifically for Export Multiple:
Checkbox "Do not render leading white space as silence"' as per straight export (1 votes)
to which you added:
Ability to include leading white space (not necessarily a check box option) (2 votes)
"Do not render leading white space as silence as per straight export" is now wrong because export multiple doesn't render leading white space. So given this is a Yes/No type of choice, I think that desired functionality is the same as for the two votes you added (with the point being that a control is wanted to toggle the functionality without going into Preferences).
But if not a checkbox, what type of control, with what other choices?
Do these two votes want a control in the straight export dialogue to preserve leading white space? If either votes do want such a control as well, that could be added as an extra bullet.
Gale
Re: 8 outputs audio card
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:59 am
by LowBassDub
I do Export Multiple, then Import Media Items into Reaper, but that just encourages me to mix it in the box
Soundcraft EQ's are generally quite good, seems a shame to waste them.
