File too big for 80 minute CDR

[Redraine]

I have edited the original 80 minute recording to 75 mins long, but it still shows the original file size in "properties" and I can't burn the CD. Do I have to re-record all over again to keep the time within 80 minutes?

[kozikowski]

Ignore the filesize completely. It's irrelevant. Your Audio CD Authoring Program will format the sound in minutes -- only. We call the limit 78 minutes. Some software can hit 79, but nobody can do 80.

I had a "magic event" recently when my clearly correct music would not fit on an Audio CD. Would. Not. Turns out I had two musical events selected by accident instead of one. I was trying to jam 150 minutes of music on a 78 minute CD.

People assume if they compress the heck out of their music in MP3, they can get a lot more on. Nope. The system gets to 78 minutes and stops dead -- plus you have added MP3 sound damage to your show.

Make sure you are trying to make an Audio CD. Look for the settings that allow you to change the gap between songs. Only Music CD has that setting.

You can put billions of hours of MP3 audio on a DATA CD. That does work, but those will not play in your mum's music CD player.

Koz

[kozikowski]

One more. Include the silences you put into the show as part of the time limit. Don't just add up the song durations.
Koz

[Redraine]

Thanks, Kozi, but I still don't understand why my recording, re-sized to 75 minutes on the project, doesn't get burned to an 80 minute audio cdrw. The Windows cd burning tool shows "disc filled", yet in "properties" it shows as empty.

[steve]

The Windows cd burning tool shows "disc filled", yet in "properties" it shows as empty.

What is this "Windows cd burning tool" that you are using? If it is "Windows Media Player" then that could be the problem/ Windows Media Player is not good for burning audio CDs, it frequently does weird things. "Nero" (non-free commercial) and CDBurnerXP (free) are popular CD burning programs. There are many others.

[kozikowski]

Invest in at least one or two CD-R disks. That's the type recommended for Audio CD applications. Sometimes CD-RW can be used but the process isn't optimal and sometimes it just doesn't work.

Koz

[Redraine]

The Windows cd burning tool shows "disc filled", yet in "properties" it shows as empty.

What is this "Windows cd burning tool" that you are using? If it is "Windows Media Player" then that could be the problem/ Windows Media Player is not good for burning audio CDs, it frequently does weird things. "Nero" (non-free commercial) and CDBurnerXP (free) are popular CD burning programs. There are many others.

I am trying with Windows media player and will try your suggested alternative and report back, thanks

[kozikowski]

Try it with CD-R. You're doing two wonky things. Windows Media is not a great gift to authoring and you're using CD-RW which may also create problems. Together they may never work.

Koz

[Redraine]

Thanks, will do, and let you know.

[WTWASP]

We call the limit 78 minutes. Some software can hit 79, but nobody can do 80.

What kind of Mickey Mouse software/media are you using?

And, umm, no... not "nobody" can do 80. I can. Or rather, my mega-awesome burning software can. I (it) can burn an 80-minute CDR to capacity and even overburn an extra minute or two if necessary, without any playback issues (skipping, etc). I even use 90-minute discs if 81-82 mins is not enough. Only the 99-minute discs exhibited some limitations, but I think it's mostly due to the quality of those discs, since 99/100-min discs are pretty rare, and admittedly pushing the envelope.

Maybe it's the dumbing-down of all the modern technology lately y'all are using that limits you to 79 mins? You poor souls. That Romper Room level crap is useless for people with specific needs and customization preferences (i.e. professional standards). Modern tech is for conformist sheep.