Can't record "what I Hear"?

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bwbeye
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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by bwbeye » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:53 pm

I disabled everything except Realtek digital output in playback, and stereo mix in recording, and I've reposted the audio device info below. It's been a while since I used audacity to record what you hear, and I think I've gotten mixed up and confused. Your previous reply shook my memory loose and I'm starting to remember what I think I need to do. You're correct (of course) I have the digital out of my sound card connected (digital cable) to the digital input of my Yamaha receiver, which bypasses the stereo mixer and ability to record?. I believe last I used the "record what you hear" I had (and still have) a logitech 5.1 speaker setup pluged in between the audio out (output?) of the soundcard, to the audio in on the back of the logitech subwoofer/amplifier (output?) that sends the sound to the 5 speakers and the subwoofer. I hope I've explained it properly. So I believe I had to disable realtek digital output in "playback", and stereo mixer in "recording", to effectively disable the digital connection between the soundcard and my yamaha receiver.

Does that make sense so far?

Now to record what I hear I need to enable the audio connection between my sound card and logitech speakers? already plugged in and connected by enabling the speakers in playback? (disabling the realtek digital audio output connection) and leaving the stereo mix enabled to record?

Hope I didn't confuse you, as much as I'm now somewhat confused, but think I'm on the right track?

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==============================
Default capture device number: 1
Default playback device number: 3
==============================
Device ID: 0
Device name: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
Host name: MME
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.200000
Low Output Latency: 0.200000
High Input Latency: 0.400000
High Output Latency: 0.400000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 1
Device name: Stereo Mix (Realtek High Defini
Host name: MME
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.200000
Low Output Latency: 0.200000
High Input Latency: 0.400000
High Output Latency: 0.400000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 2
Device name: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
Host name: MME
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.200000
Low Output Latency: 0.200000
High Input Latency: 0.400000
High Output Latency: 0.400000
Supported Rates:
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==============================
Device ID: 3
Device name: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek
Host name: MME
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.200000
Low Output Latency: 0.200000
High Input Latency: 0.400000
High Output Latency: 0.400000
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
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==============================
Device ID: 4
Device name: Primary Sound Capture Driver
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.000000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.000000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 5
Device name: Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.000000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.000000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 6
Device name: Primary Sound Driver
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.000000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.000000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 7
Device name: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.000000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.000000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Selected capture device: 0 - Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
Selected playback device: 3 - Realtek Digital Output (Realtek
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Available mixers:
==============================
Available capture sources:
0 - Master
==============================
Available playback volumes:
0 - PCM
==============================
Capture volume is native
Playback volume is native
Last edited by bwbeye on Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:18 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: wrapped audio device info in code tags for readability

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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:15 am

I don't have your system, but I still don't see how you can record audio playing on the computer unless you are prepared to enable an analogue playback output in Windows. Stereo Mix cannot usually record from playback on the digital output - it needs to record from playback on the analogue output.

This is why I suggested enabling all the inputs and outputs in Windows and posting images so we can see all the potential devices you have available. It may shed some light on what those MIDI inputs are that Audacity sees.

It doesn't matter if you connect 5.1 speakers, headphones or whatever to the analogue output.

It doesn't matter if you leave the digital output enabled as long as you also enable the analogue output then play the audio you want to record on that output (that is, set the analogue output as default device on the "Playback" tab of Windows "Sound").


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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by bwbeye » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:12 am

Here's the playback and record screenshots, thank you.
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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:58 am

Thanks for the screenshots.

As previously suggested, I think you will need to enable the "Speakers" playback device (right-click over it) then make it default (right-click over it a second time). Then songs you play in the browser will play through the speakers and be recordable by stereo mix if you turn up ALL of these:
  • the output level of "Speakers"
  • the output level of the Flash player in the browser
  • the input level of Stereo Mix.
You may also need to make Stereo Mix default recording device.

Is your issue that you want to record computer playback but listen to it on the Yamaha while it records? I think that will be difficult to achieve in high quality unless you connect the Speakers to the Yamaha rather than the digital out.

The "Ws" devices seem to be Wondershare or similar product of theirs. Are you sure that cannot record streaming audio as a standalone application? A few Forum users say it can do so, but I have no idea if Audacity can record from any of its virtual inputs. I suggest your read the Wondershare documentation if you have not already done so.



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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by bwbeye » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:52 pm

Thanks for all your help, finally got it going per all your suggestions and it's working like a champ!

Thanks again Gale!

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Re: Can't record "what I Hear"?

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:53 pm

bwbeye wrote:Thanks for all your help, finally got it going per all your suggestions and it's working like a champ!
Hooray :D

Were all those Ws devices Wondershare? Did you record computer playback without needing Wondershare? I don't know what it does, but you "might" be able to use it to record from the digital out if you make digital out default playback device. But to record "stereo mix", you'd have to set "Speakers" back to default playback device.

But if you are happy and it ain't broken, it may be best not to fix it. ;)


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