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Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:31 am
by bawldiggle
Trying to record NPR internet broadcast, sounds like in tin can when played back.
(Podcast download is not available in Australia, because of several weeks delay before broadcast here)
I read Audacity tutorial (before starting)
Tutorial recording audio laying on the computer and applied settings as suggested.
PC Toshiba Satellite laptop
Win7 sp1
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Audacity-win-2.0.3
Settings on main window
- • Windows Direct Sound
• Primary Sound Driver
• Primary Sound Capture Driver
• 2 (Stereo) Input Channel...
What am I doing wrong ?
I am a raw beginner ... would appreciate any help, thank you
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:41 am
by kozikowski
You missed a step. Windows from Vista on have conferencing software to "help you." Sometimes it helps you so much the show stops working.
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements
You can also get into trouble if you're recording Stereo-Mix and you cause a feedback loop -- Audacity is trying to record the show more than once. That can cause "talking down a mailing tube." Try listening to the show with headphones and Audacity Playthrough turned off.
Also, dig in the Windows Control Panels and turn off any and all Concert Hall Effects or other similarly named Windows Effects.
Koz
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:43 am
by kozikowski
I'm in Los Angeles and I use the downloads of many shows. The air show is frequently shorter than the download because of local station promotions and messages stepping on portions of the show. PodCast Downloads are generally clean -- and longer.
Koz
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:50 am
by bawldiggle
@ kozikowski
Thanks for your response
RE:-
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... hancements
... Stereo-Mix ... feedback loop ... "talking down a mailing tube."
Replay is as poor as two cans joined by a bit of tight string -- I am not getting any echo
Original web source audio is perfect (as it can be for a lappy) , quality is degraded only when played back from Audacity window
kozikowski wrote:
Also, dig in the Windows Control Panels and turn off any and all Concert Hall Effects or other similarly named Windows Effects.
There are no "Concert Hall Effects" nor any other sound-effect setting for replay or record -- in CP > Sounds
Should I disable Microphone ?
This is a new laptop and never use microphone (except for skype in future??)
kozikowski wrote:
PodCast Downloads are generally clean -- and longer.
Free to air broadcasts (here in Australia) are several weeks behind podcasts in USA.
NPR only allow podcast downloads for one week after USA release, Well after when we hear it here.
I heard a specific show this morning (on our free to air steam-radio) to late for me to download from NPR in USA.
Thanks again, appreciate your help (I am really stuck)
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Installed Audacity to-day
Win7 32bit
Toshiba Satellite C665
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:28 am
by steve
bawldiggle wrote:I read Audacity tutorial (before starting) Tutorial recording audio laying on the computer and applied settings as suggested.
PC Toshiba Satellite laptop
Win7 sp1
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Audacity-win-2.0.3
Settings on main window
• Windows Direct Sound
• Primary Sound Driver
• Primary Sound Capture Driver
• 2 (Stereo) Input Channel...
In
"Step 1: Set up devices to capture computer playback" it has a link: "
Recording Computer Playback on Windows"
Choosing the correct input is essential.
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:17 am
by bawldiggle
@ steve
Thank you for your help.
When all else fails ... read the directions ! Trouble wanting point+click.
Step 1
- 1. Audio Host = Windows DirectSound
2. Output Device = Speakers (Conextant SmartAudio HD)
3. Input Device = Primary Sound Capture Driver
4. Input Channels = 2 (Stereo) Input Channels
Step2:
- [ ] Software Playthrough ... is OFF
Input Volume = Maximum
Output Volume = Maximum
But now nothing is recorded, not even the "tinny" replay.
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:15 am
by steve
bawldiggle wrote:3. Input Device = Primary Sound Capture Driver
What are the other options?
Also, please select "Help > Audio Device Info", wait for the info to appear then copy and paste the information into your reply.
Also look in the
Windows Sound Control Panel and see what recording devices are available and which are greyed out (after you have set it to show hidden and disabled devices).
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:18 am
by bawldiggle
Thank you
"steve" for helping me out.
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Input Devices:-
1. Primary Sound Capture Driver
2. Internal Microphone (Conexant SmartAudio HD)
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"Help > Audio Device Info"
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Default capture device number: 1
Default playback device number: 3
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Device ID: 6
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Device ID: 7
Device name: Speakers (Conexant SmartAudio HD)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
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Selected capture device: 5 - Internal Microphone (Conexant SmartAudio HD)
Selected playback device: 7 - Speakers (Conexant SmartAudio HD)
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Available mixers:
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Available capture sources:
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Available playback volumes:
0 - PCM
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Capture volume is native
Playback volume is native
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RECORDING DEVICES
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I have had problems inserting the one image,what am I doing wrong? (For another thread ??)
Re: Metallic (tin can) sound when played back
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:28 pm
by steve
As shown in the image and confirmed by the "Audio Device Info", the only recording input available on your machine is the microphone, which will sound bad recording internet broadcasts.
See the blue panel here for alternative approaches:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Mixer ... _Issues#cp
"Soundleech" is worth a try.
bawldiggle wrote:I have had problems inserting the one image,
When you have uploaded the image (as you did successfully), click on the "Place Inline" button (below the message compose box after the image is uploaded) and that will insert the image at the current cursor position.