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PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:49 pm
by auzer666
Please help me figure this out, guys. Pleeeeeaaasssee!

Alright, I wanna prank call some of my friends using a voice changer and record it through audacity.

I'm using Google Chat/Talk, whatever it's called(the thing that's integrated into Gmail), to do the calling, a mic that plugs into the jack on my computer to do the talking, Morphvox Pro for the voice changing, and Audacity is what I wanna record it all with.

The problem is, I can't get audacity to record everything. It will either record my normal voice and Google talk, without the voice changer effects....or it will record my voice with the effects, but not the phone call through Google talk.

How can I get Audacity to record everything? My voice with the effects AND the phone call through Google Talk?

I've tried numerous combinations of inputs and outputs on both Audacity and Morphvox Pro, but I can't get Audacity to record it all for the life of me.

Please help me with this, guys. It's driving me crazy.

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:56 pm
by kozikowski
In order to work right, chat/conference software has to take over the computer sound channels leaving no place to grab voice for a recording. Skype does it, too. You need to find software specifically designed to do this. Skype has the Pamela suite of capture tools. Audacity won't do it by itself.

Under some conditions Windows Total Recorder can be made to work. All these products are money-based and they all run into wiretap rules.

Koz

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:32 pm
by auzer666
kozikowski wrote:In order to work right, chat/conference software has to take over the computer sound channels leaving no place to grab voice for a recording. Skype does it, too. You need to find software specifically designed to do this. Skype has the Pamela suite of capture tools. Audacity won't do it by itself.

Under some conditions Windows Total Recorder can be made to work. All these products are money-based and they all run into wiretap rules.

Koz
So, there's no way at all to do what I want using free software?

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:40 pm
by kozikowski
There's that guy on YouTube that claimed to be able to do it with Audacity and Skype, but nobody I know of claimed to do it with Google Chat. Koz

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:47 pm
by auzer666
kozikowski wrote:There's that guy on YouTube that claimed to be able to do it with Audacity and Skype, but nobody I know of claimed to do it with Google Chat. Koz
It has to be done somehow. I've seen plenty of YouTube videos where people have recorded voice change prank calls.

This should be a suggestion for Audacity then if it can't do it.

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:16 pm
by kozikowski
It has to be done somehow. I've seen plenty of YouTube videos where people have recorded voice change prank calls.
With Skype, yes. I think one of the Pamela licenses is free and actually works as long as you don't go over a minute or some restriction like that.

I think the guy on YouTube forced Audacity to record its own speaker somehow. The problem with a lot of these schemes is they mess with the quality of sound at the far end. The other end starts getting echoes of their own voice and the call starts falling apart.

One poster discovered a way to change the Windows Registry to force Skype recording to work -- on his machine. Ever edit the Registry? They warn you you can destroy your computer.

I have YouTube account. Get one and write to one of those guys and find out how they did it.

Then write back here and tell us how you did it.

Koz

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:41 pm
by steve
kozikowski wrote: I think one of the Pamela licenses is free and actually works as long as you don't go over a minute or some restriction like that.
I think the restriction is 15 minutes per call.

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:33 am
by auzer666
kozikowski wrote:With Skype, yes. I think one of the Pamela licenses is free and actually works as long as you don't go over a minute or some restriction like that.

I think the guy on YouTube forced Audacity to record its own speaker somehow. The problem with a lot of these schemes is they mess with the quality of sound at the far end. The other end starts getting echoes of their own voice and the call starts falling apart.

One poster discovered a way to change the Windows Registry to force Skype recording to work -- on his machine. Ever edit the Registry? They warn you you can destroy your computer.

I have YouTube account. Get one and write to one of those guys and find out how they did it.

Then write back here and tell us how you did it.

Koz
What are "Pamela Licenses"? And how do they work? Do they come with skype once you download it? And can it be used for whatever you do with Skype, like, just Skype to Skype calling? Because I can't afford to pay for mins on Skype just to prank call.

Do you know how to make Audacity "record its own speaker"? I don't mind a loss in quality if it works.

Edit the registry to make Skype recording work? Wait, I'm confused, are you saying it will work with "Pamela Licenses", or do I have to edit the registry the first? I've deleted things from the registry plenty of times, but I've never "edited" it, per se. Unless, that's what you mean by editing.

Yeah, I guess I could mail some YouTubers, but Idk how likely it is to get a respone. Most of those guys just post the pranks and never log in again, or they're so big on YouTube they probably won't even see your message.

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:17 am
by kozikowski
Point to Point Skype calls are free and group calls are free as long as you're calling into a group manager, or someone who has a paid license. I think it also cost money if one of you is on a cellphone or land-line because those interchanges cost money. It gets more complicated as you graduate into Skype Video, but I never needed that so that's a mystery to me.

Pamela has multiple software packages -- licenses.

http://www.pamela.biz/en/products/

The upper two, Professional and Business will record you on the left and the far end on the right of a stereo show so that you can apply filters and effects to one without affecting the other. Those are the ones to use if you're going to do a serious "radio" interview with somebody. This software and technique are reasonably reliable and far cheaper than trying to record a cellphone or landline directly, although the voice quality can be pretty bad if your neighbor, for just one example, happens to be downloading HiDef Adult Movies on the cable at the same time you're trying to call Adelaide for an interview.

You have one other problem. Skype and the others may not be compatible with your special effects voice software. Skype is looking for your microphone and your effects software is, too. You won't know until it fails.


You don't buy software. You buy a license to use it. I own a license to use Photoshop.

Audacity has a license, too.

"Audacity is free software, developed by a group of volunteers and distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL)."

Koz

Re: PLEASE HELP!!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:31 pm
by auzer666
kozikowski wrote:Point to Point Skype calls are free and group calls are free as long as you're calling into a group manager, or someone who has a paid license. I think it also cost money if one of you is on a cellphone or land-line because those interchanges cost money. It gets more complicated as you graduate into Skype Video, but I never needed that so that's a mystery to me.

Pamela has multiple software packages -- licenses.

http://www.pamela.biz/en/products/

The upper two, Professional and Business will record you on the left and the far end on the right of a stereo show so that you can apply filters and effects to one without affecting the other. Those are the ones to use if you're going to do a serious "radio" interview with somebody. This software and technique are reasonably reliable and far cheaper than trying to record a cellphone or landline directly, although the voice quality can be pretty bad if your neighbor, for just one example, happens to be downloading HiDef Adult Movies on the cable at the same time you're trying to call Adelaide for an interview.

You have one other problem. Skype and the others may not be compatible with your special effects voice software. Skype is looking for your microphone and your effects software is, too. You won't know until it fails.


You don't buy software. You buy a license to use it. I own a license to use Photoshop.

Audacity has a license, too.

"Audacity is free software, developed by a group of volunteers and distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL)."

Koz
Well, I need to call cellphones/land lines, so I think I'll just buy Skype credit or whatever. The site says $3 for a month of unlimited calling, and no contract. Sounds good to me. I'm confused about credit vs. money, though. It says $3 per month, so....what does that mean for credit? Do I buy credit and convert, or do I just pay $3?

So, Pamela is absolutely needed in order to do what I wanna do? I've done a bit of researching about how others do it, including watching videos, and I haven't heard of or seen anything about Pamela. And what if I just get the free version? It says it will record 15mins worth of audio at a time, which is fine with me. Will the free version be enough for me?

I know Skype is compatible with Morphvox. I've seen videos on it. When you download Morphvox, a new option under both, your own computer's audio inputs, and Skype's audio inputs, will appear. It's called "Screaming Bee audio mic", or something like that. So, I should be good there.