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Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:53 am
by sten
The stock plugins do not cause a scan. Only any of those included with the package. I made a fresh directory of Audacity - no scan. I copied just *one* plugin (plate verb) over from somewhere else, and it causes a scan.
I might think the plugins.cfg isn't getting written to, but I don't know what would be written in there, because a plugin name gives an error saying 'should be ='. Um, okay.
So?
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:17 am
by steve
sten wrote:Only any of those included with the package.
Included with which package?
sten wrote:I copied just *one* plugin (plate verb) over from somewhere else
What is the full name of that file and where did it come from?
sten wrote:because a plugin name gives an error saying 'should be ='.
Where do you see that error?
What is the full error message?
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:15 am
by Gale Andrews
sten wrote:The stock plugins do not cause a scan. Only any of those included with the package. I made a fresh directory of Audacity - no scan. I copied just *one* plugin (plate verb) over from somewhere else, and it causes a scan.
I might think the plugins.cfg isn't getting written to, but I don't know what would be written in there, because a plugin name gives an error saying 'should be ='. Um, okay.
If you mean
http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/LA ... 0.4.15.exe then dll's from that package will be scanned (and ignored) when Audacity scans for VST effects. On Windows, VST effects are dll's, like the LADSPA plug-ins.
Audacity will scan for VST effects the first time you use it, then not again unless you ask for the rescan in Effects Preferences and restart Audacity.
LADSPA dll's will be detected as soon as you put them in the Audacity "Plug-Ins" folder and restart Audacity (whether you rescan for VST effects or not).
Only VST plug-ins are added to plugins.cfg.
Gale
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:34 am
by sten
Gale Andrews wrote:
Audacity will scan for VST effects the first time you use it, then not again unless you ask for the rescan in Effects Preferences and restart Audacity.
LADSPA dll's will be detected as soon as you put them in the Audacity "Plug-Ins" folder and restart Audacity (whether you rescan for VST effects or not).
Gale
Hmmm, happens with legacy Audacity, too. I guess it's this particular PC, because I get correct behavior on my main rig. I don't know what's different; though this one is a Gateway, and the other is a gigabyte mobo build, they're both late model P4s with (the same version of) XP32.
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:49 am
by Gale Andrews
sten wrote:Hmmm, happens with legacy Audacity, too.
We don't know what happens, with what plug-ins package, because you did not answer Steve's questions.
If this something happens without going into the Effects Preferences to rescan VST effects, can you post an image of the error message box you see (ALT + PrtScr, open Paint, Paste, save as a PNG flie, then attach the image to your message using "Upload attachment" underneath where you post messages).
Gale
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:51 am
by sten
Gale Andrews wrote:sten wrote:Hmmm, happens with legacy Audacity, too.
We don't know what happens, with what plug-ins package, because you did not answer Steve's questions.
If this something happens without going into the Effects Preferences to rescan VST effects, can you post an image of the error message box you see (ALT + PrtScr, open Paint, Paste, save as a PNG flie, then attach the image to your message using "Upload attachment" underneath where you post messages).
Gale
Despite missing one letter in the acronym, I thought it was obvious which package, as I put it in the title. The package ya all have for download. Are there any others?
Second, there is no error message. It just scans every time. The scanning dialogue box shows up. Like if I manually selected it. But I didn't. You know, this one.
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:38 pm
by steve
sten wrote:Despite missing one letter in the acronym, I thought it was obvious which package, as I put it in the title. The package ya all have for download. Are there any others?
There are hundreds of other LADSPA plug-ins.
By default the "set of over 90 LADSPA plug-ins" from the Audacity web site
plug-ins page installs all 90+ plug-ins from the pack. It is not clear to me what you mean by, or how you achieved:
"I copied just *one* plugin (plate verb) over from somewhere else"
sten wrote:Second, there is no error message.
Although you originally said:
"because a plugin name gives an error saying 'should be ='."
To be clear, are you now saying that you installed the aforementioned "set of over 90 LADSPA plug-ins" and now you see a scan (but no error message) each time you start Audacity?
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:17 am
by Gale Andrews
So presumably you:
- placed or installed Audacity in "DDocumentsAudacity"?
- installed the LADSPA plug-ins in "DDocumentsAudacityPlug-Insothers" ?
- moved "plate_1423.dll" from "DDocumentsAudacityPlug-Insothers" into "DDocumentsAudacityPlug-Ins" so as to use it?
Do you have any VST plug-ins? If not, there is an issue that Audacity may scan for VST's every time without this being asked for in Preferences. That scan is recursive, so looks in folders inside the Audacity "Plug-Ins" folder and so will scan all your LADSPA plug-ins in "others".
To stop the VST scanning at each launch, you will need to quit Audacity, then find audacity.cfg as per these instructions:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/pr ... tml#stored .
Note in those instructions that you may have to tell Windows to show hidden files and folders.
Then open audacity.cfg in Notepad. Look for:
If {VST] doesn't exist, add that line.
Underneath that [VST] line, add:
Save audacity.cfg. Audacity should not scan now. Alternatively, put a VST plug-in in the Audacity "Plug-Ins" folder.
Gale
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:31 am
by sten
Oh. Yeah, I use Documents/My Documents as a general nexus. I read earlier threads on the scanning issue. I have no VST plugins; I thought the LSPDA ones were VST, so yeah I have none. I know about cfg and ini files, and some basic command line, via MAME. I should've put together that I needed to add to the VST line in the cfg and what the command was.
Here's the line, with added entry.
[VST]
Enable=1
Rescan=0
It's not obeying, though. I'll just disable them. Thanks.
Re: Any plugin from the LSPDA set causes a scan....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:10 pm
by steve
If you don't use VST or LADSPA plug-ins then you may as well disable them. You don't need to manually edit the audacity.cfg file to do that, you can do it through the graphical interface: Edit menu > Preferences > Effects". The built-in Audacity effects will still be available.