Electrical Whistle in Recording

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Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by kaapvaardersverbond » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:27 am

Dear people,

Sometimes there is a (electrical?) whistle in my recordings. I've attached an example file.
I am wondering how it's produced and even more curious how to eliminate it.

I've tried a low-pass filter and noise attenuation, but it alters the sound quality.

I'd really like to hear from you :)

Tim

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by kaapvaardersverbond » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:34 am

2021_01_25_Subzero_Fluit.mp3
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kaapvaardersverbond wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:27 am
Dear people,

Sometimes there is a (electrical?) whistle in my recordings. I've attached an example file.
I am wondering how it's produced and even more curious how to eliminate it.

I've tried a low-pass filter and noise attenuation, but it alters the sound quality.

I'd really like to hear from you :)

Tim

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by steve » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:34 am

kaapvaardersverbond wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:27 am
I've attached an example file.
Unfortunately that didn't work. Perhaps this will help: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=72887
Please post a short WAV format file.
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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by steve » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am

Crossed posts :)
A short WAV file would be better as MP3 encoding makes the problem less clear.
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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by kaapvaardersverbond » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:46 am

Haha Steve, yes we've crossed posts. Here's a link to the WAV file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8gt1wivysw66 ... V.wav?dl=0

Ha Koz, it is bit different than the sound I hear in your recording!

Thanks for your time and help!

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by steve » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:24 pm

The main problem is that the first voice (Skype?) is badly damaged by excessive processing - probably "noise reduction" and / or "echo cancellation". Unfortunately that can't be fixed.

The second problem, which is probably a side effect of the above, is the whistling sound in the left channel. You can see it here (the wiggly red / blue line that runs from left to right in the upper track) in the track spectrogram view:

First Track000.png
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As you can see, the frequency of that whistle varies, which makes it very difficult to filter out. In my opinion, the best solution would be to "split stereo to mono" and delete the left channel (click on the [X] in the top left corner of the track). The result will be a mono track without the whistling.
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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by kaapvaardersverbond » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:41 pm

Thanks a lot for showing me that 'spectogram view'! I was already looking for the frequency spectrum, but wasn't able to do so.

Yes, when you delete the left channel it gets much better. To refer to your first point, this is the original/unedited recording of the audio file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/npbfxjhur3084 ... g.wav?dl=0

Do you see any chance/tips to improve?

Like to hear, many thanks!

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by kaapvaardersverbond » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:44 pm

Can it be a hardware issue? For example a damaged or low quality mic?

Or maybe electrical interference? We did put off our phones while recording, the two mics were 2,5 meters seperated

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Re: Electrical Whistle in Recording

Post by steve » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:58 pm

I'd suggest:
  1. Split to mono
  2. Delete the upper ("left") track
  3. Amplify the entire track to about -1 dB
  4. "Filter Curve EQ" with the "Low roll-off for speech" preset.
  5. Select a part of the recording where there are no voices or sounds other than the background "hiss"
  6. Get the "noise profile" with the Noise Reduction effect.
  7. Apply gentle noise reduction - better to leave a bit of hiss than to create "over-processing" artifacts.
    I'd suggest setting of:
    • Noise Reduction: 16 (or less)
    • Sensitivity: 6
    • Frequency smoothing: 3
My result:
Subzero_Fluit_processed.flac
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