Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

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Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by DangWang » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:09 pm

I'm using Windows 10 and Audacity 2.3.2
I'm a guitarist and I've recently been transcribing a few different pieces of music that I cannot find any tracks of the instruments in the song isolated anywhere online, which I usually use to help me in transcribing songs if they're available to me. However, I've learned that if I can get an MP3 of the song, put it into Audacity, split the stereo track, and invert one of them, it works out pretty great in allowing me to hear certain tracks clearer. From what I understand, this works by panning tracks originally panned left or right into the center and making central tracks more quiet. Is there a way to do this for central tracks, or specifically for tracks panned to a certain side? (as in only the tracks panned to the left, and not the right panned or center tracks) Any help with this, or any information that could aid me in transcribing music, would be greatly appreciated. :)

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by kozikowski » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:59 pm

Center Pan Removal is an interesting trick. Audacity has a pre-baked effect so you don't have to go through all that work yourself. Center Removal and Isolation.

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tut ... ation.html

That may be enough to do what you want, or at least help a little.

These tricks aren't as versatile as you think because you're not really remixing the original show and the result has no good relationship to the original production. But you're not trying for a musical result, so that may be enough.


We officially can't split a mixed song into individual voices, instruments, and sounds which seems to be your goal.

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by Trebor » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:08 pm

DangWang wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:09 pm
... Is there a way to do this for central tracks ...
Isolate center ...
isolate centre.png
despite the name, not specifically for vocals.
isolate centre.png (13.64 KiB) Viewed 262 times
https ://manual.audacityteam.org/man/vocal_reduction_and_isolation.html

Mid-side decoder plugin may be faster ...
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqu ... nnel_Mixer
https://www.voxengo.com/product/msed/

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by DangWang » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:40 pm

kozikowski wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:59 pm
Center Pan Removal is an interesting trick. Audacity has a pre-baked effect so you don't have to go through all that work yourself. Center Removal and Isolation.

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tut ... ation.html

That may be enough to do what you want, or at least help a little.

These tricks aren't as versatile as you think because you're not really remixing the original show and the result has no good relationship to the original production. But you're not trying for a musical result, so that may be enough.


We officially can't split a mixed song into individual voices, instruments, and sounds which seems to be your goal.

koz
Thank you! I'll try it out in a bit. I didn't realize that there was already a way to do this within Audacity, I guess I should have looked harder haha.
Also, I'm not necessarily trying to create a good sounding mix. I just want to be able to hear certain tracks more clearly, so I can more accurately transcribe them, and I believe that this will help greatly with this. And I do know that songs can't be split into their individual parts after it's already been mixed, however, this is the next best thing, as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by Trebor » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:19 pm

DangWang wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:40 pm
... I do know that songs can't be split into their individual parts after it's already been mixed...
Artificial Intelligence is nearly there ... https://youtu.be/IHSGrGXp_oo

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by jademan » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:41 am

Trebor wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:19 pm
Artificial Intelligence is nearly there ... https://youtu.be/IHSGrGXp_oo
I get the message, "Video unavailable
This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by Trebor » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:55 am

jademan wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:41 am
I get the message, "Video unavailable
This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."
The (free) AI software is called Spleeter ... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Spleeter

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by jademan » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:22 pm

Trebor wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:55 am
The (free) AI software is called Spleeter
Thanks, Trebor. :D

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Re: Is there a way to make centered tracks louder and left and right tracks quieter?

Post by steve » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:46 pm

There's also the "Channel Mixer" Nyquist plug-in: https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqu ... nnel_Mixer

Instructions for installing Nyquist plug-ins: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/ins ... st_install
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