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Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:23 am
by germanindc
I frequently hear clicks in my recordings (audiobook for ACX).
The computer is in another room, process is on high process priority, Windows 10. Microphone Rode NT-USB.
I can not think of any source in my recording room other than mouthclicks.
These clicks appear frequently and not in room tone measurements.
I attached you two recordings:
- rapid clicks, which sometimes appear and can be removed with the declick tool from this forum
- loud clicks, which sometimes appear and the declick tool does not manage to remove them sufficiently
Are these mouth clicks? If not, what else could they be?
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:10 pm
by Trebor
germanindc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:23 am
I attached you two recordings:
Attachments
loudclick.wav (163.16 KiB)
rapidclicking.wav (275.5 KiB)
"Rode NT-USB" is a mono microphone, but there is a stereo-effect on those attachments:
the tracks are not identical, (not dual-mono).
You can instruct Audacity to record in mono in
preferences, ( choose "1 channel").
I'm not claiming this will cure your clicking problem, but is worth a try.
(
Paul-L's de-clicker plug-in is designed to be used on mono tracks,
If applied to stereo-tracks, unwanted spatial effects can occur ).
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:15 am
by jademan
germanindc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:23 am
I frequently hear clicks in my recordings (audiobook for ACX).
The computer is in another room, process is on high process priority, Windows 10. Microphone Rode NT-USB.
I can not think of any source in my recording room other than mouthclicks.
These clicks appear frequently and not in room tone measurements.
I attached you two recordings:
- rapid clicks, which sometimes appear and can be removed with the declick tool from this forum
- loud clicks, which sometimes appear and the declick tool does not manage to remove them sufficiently
Are these mouth clicks? If not, what else could they be?
gernamindc, I have never done any audio mastering, and I believe Trebor and/or others here on the forum have, but to my ears, I don't hear anything other than character in either of those recordings.
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am
by Trebor
jademan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:15 am
... to my ears, I don't hear anything other than character in either of those recordings ...
The mouth clicks are visible in the
spectrogram view ...
- loudClick.png (287.78 KiB) Viewed 185 times
Splashy "
loudclick" is actually series of clicks mainly around 10kHz, & only ~2ms apart.
Their closeness is why Paul-L's de-clicker will not detect then on default settings.
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:15 pm
by germanindc
So do you think those are mouth clicks?
Any ideas/settings how to get rid of them? (already played with mic position, distance, etc...)
Ideally I would be able to run a plugin on the entire file, without having to mark the individual locations.
Trebor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am
jademan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:15 am
... to my ears, I don't hear anything other than character in either of those recordings ...
The mouth clicks are visible in the
spectrogram view ...
loudClick.png
Splashy "
loudclick" is actually series of clicks mainly around 10kHz, & only ~2ms apart.
Their closeness is why Paul-L's de-clicker will not detect then on default settings.
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:41 pm
by jademan
germanindc wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:15 pm
Any ideas/settings how to get rid of them? (already played with mic position, distance, etc...)
So you and Trebor have much more discerning ears than I do...
Trebor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am
Splashy "loudclick" is actually series of clicks mainly around 10kHz, & only ~2ms apart.
Their closeness is why Paul-L's de-clicker will not detect then on default settings.
On a whim, I took Trebor's suggestion and ran the de-clicker on loudclick changing the step size from 5ms to 2ms. To my ears, the "character" has been essentially eliminated.
I do not know the downside of this change.
Trebor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:10 pm
You can instruct Audacity to record in mono in preferences, ( choose "1 channel").
I'm not claiming this will cure your clicking problem, but is worth a try.
( Paul-L's de-clicker plug-in is designed to be used on mono tracks,
If applied to stereo-tracks, unwanted spatial effects can occur ).
Also, have you tried recording in mono ?
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:47 am
by germanindc
jademan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:41 pm
germanindc wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:15 pm
Any ideas/settings how to get rid of them? (already played with mic position, distance, etc...)
So you and Trebor have much more discerning ears than I do...
Trebor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am
Splashy "loudclick" is actually series of clicks mainly around 10kHz, & only ~2ms apart.
Their closeness is why Paul-L's de-clicker will not detect then on default settings.
On a whim, I took Trebor's suggestion and ran the de-clicker on loudclick changing the step size from 5ms to 2ms. To my ears, the "character" has been essentially eliminated.
I do not know the downside of this change.
Trebor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:10 pm
You can instruct Audacity to record in mono in preferences, ( choose "1 channel").
I'm not claiming this will cure your clicking problem, but is worth a try.
( Paul-L's de-clicker plug-in is designed to be used on mono tracks,
If applied to stereo-tracks, unwanted spatial effects can occur ).
Also, have you tried recording in mono ?
Thank you for your response.
I tried recording mono, this did unfortunately not work.
Could you please post your full settings for declick?
I changed the step size to 2ms as you suggested but this did not affect the click at all
Re: Clicking noises - are these mouth clicks?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by jademan
germanindc wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:47 am
Could you please post your full settings for declick?
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- Trackpanel000.png (42.5 KiB) Viewed 138 times
I hope this helps.