Hello experts,
Need your help. I have been making audios for a few weeks and I have a weird issue. If I take any audio, goto effect, and repeat, there is a gap that's created between the 2. I have done this 100 times and never seen a gap like this. This empty gap will not go away even if I delete or truncate. Please look at the attachment to see what I mean.
The gap interrupts the audio with a click sound. Even when I export it's still there.
Any idea how I can remove this empty gap?
Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
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zainzain11
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Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
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Re: Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
Left mouse button click on the bold line on the right of that "gap".
Note that it's not really a gap. It's just a "split" separating two adjacent audio clips. Digital audio is just a series of discrete "sample" points. The line that joins the dots does not exist in the audio, that's just a graphical addition to help visualize the waveform. There's actually a "gap" between every sample point, but Audacity may show a line connecting them.
Note that it's not really a gap. It's just a "split" separating two adjacent audio clips. Digital audio is just a series of discrete "sample" points. The line that joins the dots does not exist in the audio, that's just a graphical addition to help visualize the waveform. There's actually a "gap" between every sample point, but Audacity may show a line connecting them.
Clicks occur at loop points if the audio does not match up smoothly. For a transition to not click, both the amplitude (level) and the slope of the waveform must match up at the loop point:zainzain11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:23 amThe gap interrupts the audio with a click sound. Even when I export it's still there.
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zainzain11
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Re: Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
Hey Steve,
Thanks for the reply. I understand exactly what you mean and it makes total sense. I have been doing editing like this (repeat and remove gaps and align sound perfectly).
But I do still hear a slight dud sound. I have attached the 3-sec audio. It is a slight dud, but it still bothers me. Again, I have made countless audios like this for my youtube channel, the first time I am seeing an empty gap and dud sound even if the audio is aligned perfectly.
Thanks for the reply. I understand exactly what you mean and it makes total sense. I have been doing editing like this (repeat and remove gaps and align sound perfectly).
But I do still hear a slight dud sound. I have attached the 3-sec audio. It is a slight dud, but it still bothers me. Again, I have made countless audios like this for my youtube channel, the first time I am seeing an empty gap and dud sound even if the audio is aligned perfectly.
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- Above is the gap. I swear this empty gap never appeared before (unless I'm going blind), I would just see bold line to show separation
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- Aligned Perfectly and removed bold line
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- test.mp3
- Slight dud in middle of audio. It's just a 3 sec audio.
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Re: Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
I can see the "thud" in the track spectrogram view.zainzain11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:03 amI am seeing an empty gap and dud sound even if the audio is aligned perfectly.
That tells me that the two parts almost join up perfectly (but not quite perfect).
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zainzain11
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Re: Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
Wow! I didn't even know what a spectrogram view is.
Thanks so much! At least I know the issue and learned about spectrogram view.
God bless!!!
Thanks so much! At least I know the issue and learned about spectrogram view.
God bless!!!
Re: Empty gaps that I can't delete or truncate
You can remove the empty gap by selecting the time-shift tool, then clicking and dragging the waveform on the right until it joins up with that on the left.
Since your clip is fairly periodic, as an exercise, I tried taking your audio, duplicating to a new track, time-shifting it to find a section that roughly corresponds with the original, but without the thud. Then, I split the original at the thud, and right-shifted so that it aligned to time-shifted duplicate. See here:zainzain11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:03 amBut I do still hear a slight dud sound. I have attached the 3-sec audio. It is a slight dud, but it still bothers me.
Then I did a manual cross-fade: I selected the area of interest, marked it with Ctrl_B, then silenced all other audio in the duplicated track. I then performed Effects > Fade In, then Fade Out on the duplicated track, and did the converse on the original track: Then a Tracks > Mix > Mix And Render yields this result:
Thanks to steve for providing the spectrogram editing inspiration.