Behringer UMC404HD Driver 3.29

[rossmcm]

Win 10 1803 x64
Audacity 2.3.3

I have just acquired a Behringer UMC404HD 4 channel USB interface and want to use Audacity to record 4 mono tracks. Using the current driver 4.59, the 404's inputs are exposed as 2 stereo inputs and you can only select 1and2 or 3and4. This seems to be a known issue that is remedied by rolling back to a previous 2015 release 3.29 but I can't find it anywhere.

[steve]

Are you saying that with driver version 3.29 that you get an option to record 4 channels simultaneously?
On the Behringer website, I see a choice of either version "4.59.0 (for Windows 7 to 10)" or version "2.29.0 for Windows XP +Vista".
I don't see a version "3.29".

[rossmcm]

That's my understanding. I don't have 3.29 and I can't see it on the website. See https://www.reddit.com/r/audacity/comme ... _umc404hd/ and also viewtopic.php?t=109837

[steve]

I don't have 3.29

So how do you know that your post is correct? We don't want to be sending other Audacity users on a wild goose chase.

[rossmcm]

I'm pretty certain that 3.29 will work.

This post: viewtopic.php?t=99068 is from 2018 - the driver in use then was probably 3.29 which was dated 2015. The OP's device info shown by Audacity was:

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Device ID: 17
Device name: Line (2- BEHRINGER UMC404HD 192k)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 4

My device info for the UMC404HD's inputs is (driver 4.59):

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==============================
Device ID: 1
Device name: IN 1-2 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 2
Device name: IN 3-4 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 9
Device name: IN 1-2 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192k)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 10
Device name: IN 3-4 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192k)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 22
Device name: IN 3-4 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192k)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 23
Device name: IN 1-2 (BEHRINGER UMC 404HD 192k)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================

This post outlines the identical problem: https://www.reddit.com/r/audacity/comme ... _umc404hd/

As does this: viewtopic.php?t=109837. (The user helpfully says

"I can confirm it works. The 3.29 driver is available through their website if you know the file name (...) and it immediately gave me 4 channels of recording with WASAPI and thus Audacity (2.33 on W10). Thank you!"

but didn't give a URL for the download. I've added a support ticket to Behringer's support portal but I'm not hopeful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzwGCgotAoM has this:



(I wouldn't bother watching the video!)

This post: https://www.reddit.com/r/podcasting/com ... dacity_in/ mentions:

BFIBsAlmanac
1 year ago
After some more research, it looks like the newer driver from Behringer (4.38) is the problem and no longer supports 4 simultaneous channel recording. The old driver (3.29) does. I think you can still find the old driver online, but doesn't look like Behringer provides it. Not sure if they will fix this issue in a coming release. But the old driver works great if you can get it.

And I don't know if this issue only affects Audacity. I've read where you can just use the ASIO driver in other programs like Reaper.

This post: https://www.reddit.com/r/podcasting/com ... untered_a/ discusses incompatibility between GPL and ASIO license:

BangsNaughtyBits
1 year ago
I assume this is in Windows? Audacity, for legal reasons, is incompatible with ASIO drivers. The free license Steinberg releases ASIO under is incompatible with Audacity's GPL license. It falls back to the standard Windows stereo drivers. Audacity will work fine with all four channels on Mac or Linux.

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/asi ... rface.html

Almost all commercial software will work with the UMC's ASIO drivers. A free option to record is OcenAudio

https://www.ocenaudio.com

[steve]

The main thing that I'm concerned about is that there's a lot of websites that offer drivers without any security checks, so people can easily be tricked into installing trojans or other hard to detect malware on their computers. I would strongly advise: "Never install anything unless you are completely confident that it is authentic and safe".

the driver in use then was probably 3.29

Probably?
Seems to me that the only thing we know with certainty is that it was a driver from 2018 or earlier.
We also know that their forum profile says they were using Windows 7.

[rossmcm]

Hi Steve. I understand your concerns. Lucklily I was wrong in my assumptions about Behringer's support! Had a reply in under an hour with this link:

(which I have removed, as it generated a warning when I submitted it to virustotal. 2 snags out of 73)

[steve]

I understand your concerns

Hopefully you will also understand my concerns about allowing a direct link to an exe file on an anonymous Google Drive.

[steve]

VirusTotal results for that file: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/fde ... /detection

[rossmcm]

OK your point has been made very forcefully!

I'll alert Behringer and suggest they sort out the (probable) false positive and make it available on their website as a download again.

Lesson learned.