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Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:52 am
by Bert Coules
kozikowski wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:39 am
COWS mastered 16th.wav
That seems good. I think enough of the errors are gone. Go with that.
Excellent, thanks!

You might not have seen my second attempt when you posted, but I suspect you might feel that I've over-compensated for the boom in that one:
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COWS mastered with extra bass roll-off 16th.wav
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Did I post how to send a test to ACX?
Not in this thread but I've seen you mention it elsewhere; thanks for the handy link.

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 pm
by kozikowski
Have you been going backwards and patching older forum posts? That's a terrifically bad idea. Most of the elves don't go backwards and you will just be creating two different messages in the same thread.

Wait. I said... And then you said.... But you didn't..... But I thought....

I think the posting I liked is it. There is a fuzzy rule about using the least number of effects, corrections, and filters to get the job done. No awards given for high number of filters, and you have to remember what you did for every chapter forever.

That and you're a business. The least time spent creating a quality product the better. The goal is walk into a sound studio and walk out with a finished product. Full Stop. Not record a messy product and spend hours patching it together and rescuing it.

Koz

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:02 pm
by Bert Coules
kozikowski wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 pm
Have you been going backwards and patching older forum posts?
Yes, that one time. My apologies.

Thanks for confirming that the first of the two recent tests is the one to go with.

And huge thanks to you and Trebor for helping me (and my absent friend) to get there.

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:40 pm
by Bert Coules
Just to add:
kozikowski wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 pm
There is a fuzzy rule about using the least number of effects, corrections, and filters to get the job done.
My second posted test used no more effects than the first: I simply changed the parameter of the Filter Curve slightly to come closer to Trebor's version. I take your point about needing to remember the setting though, and so I saved it, in case you considered it a better result.

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:35 pm
by kozikowski
I simply changed the parameter of the Filter Curve slightly to come closer to Trebor's version
And you can do whatever you want, but know the ripples.

The standard 100Hz rolloff curve comes built-in with the Audacity install, and it's available as a plug-in with earlier Audacity versions. Same curve. If you make your own, you should save it as a custom curve against a failure where you have to start Audacity over again fresh. Like your machine stops working. I believe there is one Audacity version where you can't import fresh, custom curves. It was a program defect.

That would be a surprise.

Koz

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:07 pm
by Bert Coules
kozikowski wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:35 pm
If you make your own, you should save it as a custom curve against a failure where you have to start Audacity over again fresh.
Yes, that's clearly good advice.

I shall follow your recommendation and use the first mastering, but I'd value your opinion. If you did listen to my second test ("COWS mastered with extra bass roll-off 16th") did you think I had reduced the bass by too much and made the voice quality unacceptably thin? Not simply thinner than the first, which it obviously is, but too thin to be acceptable in its own right? Many thanks.

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:18 pm
by kozikowski
I need to play Real Life for a while.
Koz

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:22 pm
by Bert Coules
What's that?

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:02 am
by kozikowski
What's that?
That's the program where I wash the dishes, start the laundry, pay bills, and return a few calls.

Koz

Re: Female voice quality - equalisation advice appreciated

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:05 am
by kozikowski
The extra bass rolloff is too sterile and gutless in my opinion.

Koz