Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by Doug BB » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:37 am

Many thanks everybody! :D
I'll need a few days to absorb and try that stuff.
The label plugin sounds real promising, is there
a page that explains installation?

Here's a summery of one of my saved label files:
51 pages
1,668 lines
7,676 words
63,900 chars

A typical single label track is under 4 KB, (almost half is seconds).
I notice I can paste a 9 K Comment into an
MP3 with Winamp classic. Perhaps much more.
So that file will not play on some reputable players?

So if instead of the embedding nightmare, what would
be cool is auto-saving the label text at the same time
as exporting the MP3, into the same directory, thus giving
both files similar time stamps & filenames!
...an index or table of contents, Random Access MP3! how cool!
...but useless without human-readable times.
...and I dont know spreadsheets. :?

I realize now, one reason I was often leading a comment
with a space was to test and see if that spot was active
for typing. I had a bunch of lines starting with "m" for
the same reason (my default character I guess), and those
were the ones I failed to delete in my frantic attempts
to take notes, adjust volume, and digest meaning, etc.
So yes, I'm not focused on the text editor field.
Yes, some of your suggestions look like a probable fix!

Here's another cool shortcut: Ctrl+A -- select all.
(Great on websites too.)
I need to digest now, later...
...and thanks!
--Doug

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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by steve » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:42 am

Instructions for installing Nyquist plug-ins in Audacity 2.3.3 on Windows: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/ins ... st_install
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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by Doug BB » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:41 pm

Here's one of my attempts at a so-called MP3 table of Contents,
"1st Dem Debate, pt2 rec notes.png"
...that I've mailed with an MP3.
I figure most people often have specific interests
and don't wanna hassle "all the crap," :roll:
else they would have already found the original.

--Doug
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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by steve » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:13 pm

A possible alternative to sending an MP3 plus Label file, would be to send a "Compressed Copy" of the Audacity project
(https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/fil ... of_project)
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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by Doug BB » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am

Ok, I'm learning-- my first HOT live recording was today.
Unlike touch-up, ...not a good place to learn... :?

I had another unwanted STOP recording, so I RIGHT Clicked on
the Rec button to see the Help tip for APPEND this track. But it also started
unwanted recording in an unwanted virgin track. That seems like a bug.

I guess there is no way to copy the whole label track, spell check it, and paste it back.
I believe I've broken myself of starting with spaces! But my old MS-DOS/Wordperfect shortcuts
are muscle memory, no control. I wonder....???? I'm still seeing mystery stuff.
I still need to learn your suggestions. :roll:

Cheers!

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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by steve » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:39 am

Doug BB wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am
I guess there is no way to copy the whole label track, spell check it, and paste it back.
If you only have one label track, you can export it as a text file, spell check it, then import it back.
See: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/imp ... abels.html
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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by steve » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:44 am

Doug BB wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am
APPEND this track
By default, just click the record button, or press "R" on your keyboard.
By default, recording to a new track is "Shift + Click record button" or "shift + R".
Doug BB wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am
so I RIGHT Clicked on
the Rec button to see the Help tip
Help tips appear when you hover the mouse over an item - don't click!
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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by waxcylinder » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:39 pm

As Steve says.
Doug BB wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am
I had another unwanted STOP recording, so I RIGHT Clicked on
the Rec button to see the Help tip for APPEND this track. But it also started
unwanted recording in an unwanted virgin track. That seems like a bug.
But yes, you're right - Right-click on Record does indeed set off recording.

In fact Right-click on most buttons and sliders activates them - only in the Meter toolbars and in the Selection Toolbar does right-click bring up a context menu (which is by far the more normal thing for a right click to do).

I note from careful reading of both the Microsoft and Apple design guidelines that right-click (aka secondary click) is to be used for invoking context menus (and not invoking commands). Accordingly I will log this on our bug-tracker -where we may or may not decide what (if anything) to do about it.

But I do like the idea of a right-click context menu for the Record button where the context menu offers the choice between "Append Record" and "Record on a new Track".

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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by waxcylinder » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:23 pm

waxcylinder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:39 pm
I note from careful reading of both the Microsoft and Apple design guidelines that right-click (aka secondary click) is to be used for invoking context menus (and not invoking commands). Accordingly I will log this on our bug-tracker -where we may or may not decide what (if anything) to do about it.
Logged as P3 bug 2285
https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2285
Many action buttons and items in Toolbars activate the action on right-click (expect context menu or null action)

Good catch Doug - thanks for the report, much appreciated 8-)

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Re: Labeling Tracks bombs & suggestions

Post by steve » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:32 pm

waxcylinder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:39 pm
Accordingly I will log this on our bug-tracker
I agree, and I think P3 is right.
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