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Normalizing across sentences
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:46 am
by hbea
Is there a way to normalize across sentences? For the example file, there are 3 sentences separated by gaps (effective silence). However, the middle sentence is at a lower volume. For reference, the picture is in "Waveform (DB)" mode). When I use the "RMS Normalize" effect on the entire clip, it doesn't help in this case. The issue is that someone can be listening and the volume changes between sentences.

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Re: Normalizing across sentences
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:23 am
by Trebor
If you only have a few sentences you could manually
select each one,
including with as little* silence as possible at the ends,
then RMS normalize each one individually.
[* a ~100ms of silence either end is close enough ]
If you have a lot of audio to process you'll need a tool which detects the level & adjusts it automatically:
e.g. a
compressor, or a
leveller.
Re: Normalizing across sentences
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:17 pm
by hbea
Thanks a bunch! This seemed to work OK in small scale tests.
If I have already applied a RMS normalize (then a limiter) to meet ACX standards, can I then apply the level speed, RMS normalize, then limiter (the last two would be repeated). Or would this have the potential to mess the audio up? The issue is that I applied the RMS normalize and limiter, then did a whole lot of editing, but now I want to apply the Level Speech. After that effect, it seems I need to do the RMS normalize again (but maybe not the limiter again).
Re: Normalizing across sentences
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:47 pm
by DVDdoug
can I then apply the level speed, RMS normalize, then limiter (the last two would be repeated). Or would this have the potential to mess the audio up?
RMS Normalize is simply a volume adjustment so it's pretty-safe (and reversible) as long as you don't push the peaks into clipping. Limiting pushes the peaks & RMS level closer together so it's a little more "dangerous" and generally it's irreversible.
And, I'd "be careful" with sentence-by-sentence adjustments because sudden jumps in volume, including sudden jumps in background noise, can be distracting and unnatural.
Re: Normalizing across sentences
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:37 pm
by hbea
Gotcha, yeah the objective would be to apply this process (the to the entire audio file (20-50 min each) and to about 15 of them (its for a course). I want to have it sound consistent all the way through. The Speech Level effect should help with that. I just wish I knew about that before I applied the limiter and did a whole bunch of edits (100 hours worth so no going back now). But since there is not clipping, maybe I can get away with applying the Speech Level now still.
Regarding background noise, there is basically none. I built a really great sound booth and sound room and have pretty good equipment. You can see from the attached file that the sentences are very clean. I can put the headphones at max and play the "silent" section (which is not true silence) and not hear anything.