Turn off snapping guides

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Futal
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Turn off snapping guides

Post by Futal » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:38 am

I experience a problem with Audacity 2.3.2 on Windows 10.

Yellow snap guides keep on showing even though snapping is off. See screenshot below. The snap guides show when the cursor is close to the finish time of other tracks. I need to type Esc every time to cancel snapping. Yet it snaps again just a few pixels further as I have many short tracks. Except for the Snap-To option which is already Off, I did not find a way to turn snapping off for good so there is probably a bug with this option.

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Yellow snapping guides even if Snap-To is turned off
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I have made a small project in the enclosed archive to illustrate this problem. If you try to select the noise section in the last track, it will snap to the finish times of the previous tracks. To select only the noise section, you need to zoom in quite a lot.
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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by steve » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:01 am

If you zoom in a bit, you will be able to select much more precisely. Here I have selected from the first sample after the sine wave in track 5.
Personally I like to use "Ctrl + Mouse wheel" for zooming, but there are other methods: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/zooming.html

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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by Futal » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:47 am

Hi Steve. Thank you for the workaround. This is not very practical though because in some cases, I need an insane level of zoom - and time - to avoid them. What I need is to get rid of snapping for good.

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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by steve » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:53 am

Futal wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:47 am
What I need is to get rid of snapping for good.
There's no way to do that.

There's also no way to achieve very accurate selecting without zooming. If accuracy is important enough to bother zooming, then I don't see any reason for you to complain. If accuracy IS important, then zoom in. You can have your cake, or eat it, whichever you prefer. ;)
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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by Pullman » Fri May 07, 2021 6:19 pm

Windows 10 - Audacity 2.4.2

A comment on the snap to boundary feature. It's unfortunate you can't turn it off. It's very irritating when editing an audiobook. This is because I have all the scenes of a chapter in one project and the yellow boundary line tries to get me to line up with the elements in the other scenes when I try to copy or cut. It prevents me from grabbing where I want to unless I zoom way out which is time-consuming for audiobook creation, and even then the yellow line can get in the way. It definitely doesn't work for my workflow. I've read the comments left for others with a similar issue and I don't think those leaving them understand the features uselessness for audiobook editing. The feature, I can see, is great for music production though and I would welcome it in that arena, though I use Nuendo and Steinberg Cubase for that. I've stayed with Audacity cause overall I like the program. I just wonder why the ability to deactivate the feature was never implemented? Maybe audiobooks weren't a pressing need in those days.

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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by waxcylinder » Fri May 07, 2021 6:56 pm

Pullman wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 6:19 pm
It prevents me from grabbing where I want to unless I zoom way out which is time-consuming for audiobook creation ...
You should learn to use controlling zooming from the mouse - that may make this easier for you.

See: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/zooming.html#wheel

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Re: Turn off snapping guides

Post by steve » Fri May 07, 2021 7:04 pm

Pullman wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 6:19 pm
I just wonder why the ability to deactivate the feature was never implemented? Maybe audiobooks weren't a pressing need in those days.
Probably because of all the hundreds (thousands?) of audiobook producers that use Audacity, we've only received two complaints about this feature (you are the second), and that's despite the fact that one of the lead developers works a lot with audiobook producers.

As waxcylinder wrote, I expect that if you become familiar with mouse wheel zooming, not only will that speed up your workflow, but will also eliminate the snapping guide distraction and improve the precision of your edits.

I have made a note of your request.
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