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Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:16 pm
by Trebor
monicawolfe wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:14 pm
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IMO the only way to get rid of the mouth-noises is DeClicker software ...
Audacity's free DeClicker plugin is capable of very good results, but it's slow, and has complex controls.
Paid-for DeClicker plugins are in the range $50 to $150, work quicker, and are simpler to use.

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:19 am
by kozikowski
Betsy and Tracy works pretty well. Takes the edge from the hissy sibilants (and mouth clicks) without doing too much damage. This is what other more normal microphones sound like. Gritty, harsh sound is not normal but the microphones are not going to great effort to produce it. It's all down to frequency and pitch response and you can see it working with the newspaper crunching test.

Betsy and Tracy just removes the boost.

The only down side is two different settings for the equalizer. First pass to get rid of rumble and thunder and the second to get rid of the grit.

Koz

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:04 am
by monicawolfe
Thanks again Koz! How do I install the plug-in? I'm trying to find that plugin folder I used to install RMS Normalize...but can't.

Any tips? Such a Luddite here.

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:21 am
by kozikowski
This one is handled entirely within Equalizer.

Open or record a short audio. Content doesn't matter. Equalizer will not work without it.

Effect > Equalization > Save/Manage Curves > Import > point it to the file > Open. The display should be flat line except for that pothole over on the right. I forget whether Equalization then makes you select it again..??.. Equalization is not the easiest tool.

What I expect to happen is a little of the "crisp edge" or "grit" will go away from your voice.

Koz

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:46 am
by kozikowski
If you have trouble installing it, post back. I'll duplicate the steps rather than guessing at it.

Here's another trick. As an experiment on your submitted clip. Apply Betsy and Tracy twice. See what you think.

Roughly here, we ask you how you're listening. Good quality headphones or music sound system? If you're listening on the tiny speakers in your laptop, you could be preparing voice quality nobody will ever hear but you.

I have a joke about being able to hold both of your computer speakers in your hand at once. Don't bother listening to them. That's hopeless.

This is also a recipe for confusion. ACX (for example) contacts you to ask about that rumbling thumping sound behind your voice.

You: "What thumping sound?"

Koz

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:19 pm
by monicawolfe
Got it!

I put a sample through twice but didn't like the effect it had on the tone of my voice, it lost too much of it's crispness I think. Perhaps just the once it the ticket!

Thanks again! This was very helpful.

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:20 pm
by monicawolfe
Also- I'm using the Sony Professional Dynamic Stereo Headphones, recommended to me by another narrator.

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:45 pm
by kozikowski
One of the differences between no filter and one pass should be your mouth noises are less obvious. Did you find that worth the effort?

Betsy and Tracy is turning into a reasonable patch between overly harsh and passable without trying to take your voice apart with sibilant patching and other complex tools.
recommended to me by another narrator.
Works for me. I don't perform so I just pass on positive recommendations from other posters. Thanks.

Koz

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:06 am
by kozikowski
The ACX Check time limit is 37 minutes. Not 10. If you run out of poop at 10 minutes (technical term) then you either have a wussy computer (technical term) or you have several Apps running all at the same time taking up memory and resources. I got a 30 minute test track to check just now and I didn't take a lot of special precautions to get there.

Do you routinely leave everything running on your machine and just bring them forward when needed? One of the managers at work used to do that and he never restarted his machine. The machine would eventually grind to a halt.

Do you have the Application Dock indicators on so you can tell which is running? On my machine, it's the little lights on the bottom.


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I found out recently showing those is optional and I think not having them is a mistake.

Restart your machine and see if the ACX Check limit goes up.

Koz

Re: Gain vs. Mouthnoises

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:20 am
by kozikowski
See?


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1860 seconds (next to the bottom) comes out to a 31 minute mono (one blue wave) sound track.

Koz