Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

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Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by MH62 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:37 pm

Hello, Audacity 2.3.0 here.

I use Noise Reduction mostly for removing my turntable's typical vinyl noise when transferring my library and since that noise is pretty consistent I'm wondering if I have to capture a new Noise Profile every time I work on a new file or does Audacity remember the last Profile I captured on a previous file? And, by extension, does it remember the Noise Profile after the application is restarted?

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Re: Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by steve » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:55 pm

MH62 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:37 pm
I'm wondering if I have to capture a new Noise Profile every time I work on a new file or does Audacity remember the last Profile I captured on a previous file?
Yes you can use the same noise profile for multiple files. However, the noise profile is critical to the effectiveness of Noise Reduction. A "similar" but "not quite the same" noise profile is likely to work to some degree, but making a new noise profile each time is likely to be more effective.
MH62 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:37 pm
does it remember the Noise Profile after the application is restarted?
No. The noise profile is not retained after closing Audacity.
It would be possible for Audacity to have that ability as a "new feature", though personally I have reservations about such a feature. Taking the time to locate a good, representative noise sample, can pay big dividends in the quality of the final result.
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Re: Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by waxcylinder » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:01 pm

You might want to try what is suggested at Step 8 in this workflow tutorial: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/sam ... ation.html

And that is to use the High Pass Filter effect.

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Re: Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by DVDdoug » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:26 pm

It seems to loose the profile, but you can do the experiment just as easily as me or someone else... If "OK" is greyed-out there is no stored profile.

The noise is usually different on each record/recording so it's probably best to use a new profile on each record. (I usually combine the sides and "process" the album as one long file before splitting into individual songs.)

If you're not already doing this, the Click Removal and & Repair effects can be helpful with vinyl clicks & pops.

Or there is other specialized software. I have Wave Repair ($30 USD) and Wave Corrector (now FREE!). I've used Wave Repair for a long time. It has several different repair methods and does an audibly-perfect job removing most (but not all) clicks & pops. And, it only "touches" the audio where you identify a defect. The downside to that is that it usually takes me a full weekend to fix-up a recording. Wave Corrector works automatically, but I've only used it a couple of times.

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Re: Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by kozikowski » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:07 pm

The noise profile is not retained after closing Audacity.
I think I'm on record as wanting the ability to save the profile somehow. You know eventually, you're going to hit the edit job with no place to grab the profile and whose sound is the same as a sister shoot. I wouldn't mind an extra step to prevent New Users from thinking Noise Reduction doesn't need a profile step at all.

[X] Use Last Profile?

But also, as a legacy Sound Soap user, you don't need the profile step, you can average the existing sound and other tricks.

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Re: Noise Profile for Noise Reduction

Post by MH62 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:53 am

Thanks to all the replies, good stuff.

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