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Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:32 am
by paulsintes
Nothing else running on this machine Koz. To be clear in my mind (please let me know if I've got this wrong) I understand I should be able to record track #1 (backing track) then record track #2 (voice track). So track #1 should only contain the backing and track #2 should only contain the voice. If I have this right, when I am recording track #2 I should hear track #1 in my headphones but it should not re-record the backing track #1 onto track #2. However it is re-recording track #1 onto track #2 along with the voice and it's driving me nuts! All ideas and suggestions gratefully received.

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:34 pm
by kozikowski
Correct.

In addition, when you're simple overdubbing, you should not hear your own microphone, just the backing track. That's what's ringing alarm bells.
How are you listening?
We never got an answer to that. Where are the headphones plugged in?

It's rough finding any information on the microphone. I see a cable with XLR3 on one end
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and a plug on the other end to fit in the Mic-In of a soundcard. Is that what you have?

Does your soundcard look something like this?

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...and the microphone is plugged into the pink or red socket?

Koz

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:44 am
by paulsintes
I don't think this problem is with the microphone as the duplication of the backing track onto the following track occurs even when the microphone is not connected. If it of any help the duplicated track is recorded slightly louder than the backing track.

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:54 am
by kozikowski
If it of any help
What would help is for you to answer the questions. We have to build your machine in our imaginations and detailed descriptions of your system are valuable—even they seem to have nothing to do with the problem.

Koz

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:46 am
by paulsintes
OK, the machine I have Audacity installed on is running an Intel Quad core central processor at 2.83 GHz with 3.23 GigaBytes of Ram. It is running Wndows XP, Service Pack 3. The sound card section is Realtek HD and is built into the mother board on this machine. The sockets are at the back of the machine and are the bog standard blue, green and pink/red. I plug the headphones into the green socket. The mic has a 3.5mm stereo jack which I plug into the pink/red socket. When I record with the mic unplugged I can hear the backing track through the headphones as it duplicates onto the second track.

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:52 pm
by kozikowski
Thanks for the details.
When I record with the mic unplugged I can hear the backing track through the headphones as it duplicates onto the second track.
I don't know where to go with this outside of waiting for an experienced Windows elf.

Widows machines have no natural connection between playback and recording. You are intended to listen to internet sounds, machine warning tones or maybe CD playback. As a separate task you can record your own microphone. There is no record the internet or duplicate a CD by recording it. All the people doing that have intentionally set up special software, services, devices or pathways to cross Playback and Record. Again barring a failure somewhere, your machine must have one of those crosses.

Koz

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:29 pm
by steve
From the Audacity Help menu:
"Help > Diagnostics > Audio Device Info".
Save that info (there's a "Save" button) to somewhere convenient, then attach the saved file to your reply (see here for how to attach a file to a forum post: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=64936 )

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:43 pm
by Edgar
What is your (complete, exact three-section - see Pink panel at top) Audacity version number; where did you get Audacity (and if not from the Audacity Team's download site, get the most current version from there).

During an overdubbed session, do a screen grab. Press the PrintScreen button toward the top right of your keyboard. Open your favorite painting program (Microsoft's Paint should be installed) and paste the contents of the Clipboard (pressing the CONTROL key and the v key should probably work). Save the resulting image and attach it to a reply to this thread (just below the Reply pane is a tab marked "Attachments" - that's where you will attach the image).

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:57 pm
by Edgar
Just as a sanity check, in a non-overdubbing session, with no other tracks present, record a test track with your microphone into a mono track - just count to 10 or whatever (non-musical). Export the track as a wave file. Close then reopen Audacity and import that wave file and try to overdub using that as the backing track (just vocalize some scales so that it will be easy to distinguish the two tracks).

I can't imagine that it should make any difference, but… go to Preferences (menu Edit> Preferences) and open the Import/Export pane and make sure that you have "Make a copy of uncompressed audio files before editing (safer)" ticked as opposed to the "… (Faster)" setting.

And, as long as you're in Preferences, go to the Recording pane, do another screen grab so that we can see how that set up. I doubt that it will help us any but, as long as you're working this hard, also do a screen grab of the Devices pane. Attach them both.

I suspect that we can get this sorted out, but it will probably take patience and a painstaking attention to detail to figure out just what's going wrong - collectively, we've had many years of experience troubleshooting Audacity, but none of us have seen this before.

Re: backing track present on new recording track

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:04 am
by paulsintes
Hi Edgar
Problem solved. The Realtek control panel has a stereo mixing facility on this version for recording. Simply muting this option has solved the problem. Unfortunately Realtek do not offer a manual for this application neither is there a help file available. Many thanks and regards to all who replied and offered suggestions.