Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

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Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Emerogork » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:10 am

So far I have been using Audacity to record 24 hour stretches of audio on both Saturdays and Sundays. I then play back during the week and this has been good.

Now I want to get more into editing. I believe the software does this but I just don't see it. I know the concepts from video editing and hope they apply to Audacity.

While a piece is playing, I would like to set a mark-in and let it play for a while. I then want to set a mark-out. I would like to play the selection and edit the location of the mark-in and mark-out points. Once done, I can use copy/paste to use/save it.

Can Audacity do this?

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Trebor » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:12 am

Emerogork wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:10 am
While a piece is playing, I would like to set a mark-in and let it play for a while. I then want to set a mark-out. I would like to play the selection and edit the location of the mark-in and mark-out points.
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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by kozikowski » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:23 am

Audacity doesn't have stiff, firm, Mark-In and Mark-Out or Set-In and Set-Out like you're used to. We can get sorta close with Labels and some of the other timeline management tools.

This is going to be a shock.

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Emerogork » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 pm

I am familiar with the select-and-play technique but it doesn't work for large sections. If I click to cover more time, the accuracy gets lost.
Using a memo to show mark-in and another for mark-out has some merit.

Is it possible to send the cursor to a memo rather than clicking for it?

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Trebor » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:51 pm

Emerogork wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 pm
I am familiar with the select-and-play technique but it doesn't work for large sections.
If I click to cover more time, the accuracy gets lost.
If you insert "clip boundaries" the cursor will accurately stick to them.
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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by ve4jhj » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:45 pm

You can also use the "Cursor To" option to navigate between clip boundaries.

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by kozikowski » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:37 pm

If you insert "clip boundaries" the cursor will accurately stick to them.
Forever? Set clip boundaries and then go off scrolling around playing and stopping other places in the performance. Can you come back to those two exact spots?

Nobody in audio editing has any good concept of Mark-In (I) and Mark-Out [O]. Those two points will be there until the sun cools off and are not dependent on any other action other than you personally and manually changing them.

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Emerogork » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:49 pm

I believe that I was told that Audacity does not have Mark-In and Mark-out. That is why I am using memos. (^m) They are good until you cut or add which will set the two tracks out of sync but they are good for an edit, easily moved as needed..

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by waxcylinder » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:51 am

Emerogork wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:49 pm
I believe that I was told that Audacity does not have Mark-In and Mark-out. That is why I am using memos. (^m) They are good until you cut or add which will set the two tracks out of sync but they are good for an edit, easily moved as needed..
You can keep the two (or more) tracks, including label tracks, in sync when cutting/deleting by extending the selection across multiple tracks - or you can use Sync-Lock -see: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/syn ... roups.html

I think you already understand that you can't set label markers when you are using Timer Record ...

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Re: Getting into serious editing audio as I have with video

Post by Emerogork » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:02 am

I stand corrected, ^m is a marker and not a memo.
Yes, I understand the lockout that is in place in timer mode. There are a lot of things one cannot do when using the timer. I don't pretend to understand why but am used to it as Microsoft seems to enjoy using it.

Unless it can be developed to start and stop hourly, and maybe with the capability to name tracks automatically, it is just a novelty for me and not of much use.

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