Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Gale Andrews » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:45 am

planetlizz wrote:I cant seem to get Paul's De-Clicker into Audacity 2.11 which I just d/l yesterday. Using 2.06 in the meantime.
We don't make "2.06" and "2.11". I assume those are typos.

I recommend you obtain the current 2.1.3 release from http://www.audacityteam.org/download/ then follow the new system to register the plugins at Effect > Add / Remove Plug-ins... . See http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/inde ... lug-ins... then look in the green box for how to install Nyquist plugins on the operating system you have.

If you need more help, please tell us what version of Windows, Mac or Linux you have.


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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:48 am

Thanks Gale, will give 'er a whirl! :D

(and, no, t'wasnt a typo!)

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:41 am

2.1.3 is installed. Im ok to drag 2.0.6 and 2.1.1 to the trash?

Ive got De-Clicker.ny in a couple locations that Ive seen. Neither is the correct Im assuming.

there's a plug-ins folder within the Audacity App and a plug-in folder within the plug-in folder within the Audacity App. Each appears to have the same list of PIs.

Course I decided to do this in the middle of narrating a 16-chap online course .. i know better .. didn't have any trouble when i did this before. course I wasn't in the middle of a gig then.

Thanks
Liz

**this is for anyone who can help me get Paul's De-Clicker (back) into my effects drop-down. I've got a grip of green apples until then! ;) ;)

Muchas!
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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:01 pm

planetlizz wrote:2.1.3 is installed. Im ok to drag 2.0.6 and 2.1.1 to the trash?
Yes, but make sure the Plug-Ins folders in 2.0.6 and 2.1.1 don't contain any custom plugins that you may want to keep.
planetlizz wrote:Ive got De-Clicker.ny in a couple locations that Ive seen. Neither is the correct Im assuming.

there's a plug-ins folder within the Audacity App and a plug-in folder within the plug-in folder within the Audacity App. Each appears to have the same list of PIs.
You are now only concerned with 2.1.3. As it says in the link I gave, the best place to put your extra plugins is in ~/Library/Application Support/audacity/Plug-Ins. That way, they won't get overwritten when you install the next version of Audacity over 2.1.3.

To get to that folder, open Finder, look in the Go menu at the top and choose "Go to Folder". In that box, type or paste:

Code: Select all

~/Library/Application Support/audacity/Plug-Ins

then paste your plugins in there.

And then in 2.1.3, open Effect > Add / Remove Plug-ins..., select the plugins you added to ~/Library/Application Support/audacity/Plug-Ins, click "Enable" then OK.


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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:33 pm

Hi Gale,

Pasted ~/Library/Application Support/audacity/Plug-Ins. Came up empty-handed. I backed-it up to ~/Library/Application Support/audacity and got this.
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Notice plugins is empty. In my frustration, I took everything to the trash and re-d/l 2.1.3. I opened a file id been working on (to test) and all the effects that I believe come packaged were greyed out. Some were avail toward the bottom. I clicked the "manager", no ability to add the standards, mostly izotopes, apple et al.

At this point, Im hoping for the defaults (NR, EQ, amp + low & high pass filter, hard limiter + P's DeClicker. Believe I've tried izotopes declicker once. it applies it somewhere in the middle of your audio as I recall and scrambles the rest (trial perhaps?).

Sorry to be a pest but so happy you're there.
Liz

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:44 pm

Gale, Im sure theres a protocol .. maybe editing or deleting messages that you will no longer need to read ..
BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS, once again, PEACHY KEEN JELLY BEAN!

Latest Version 2.1.3 In
Older Versions 2.0.6 & 2.1.1 Out
All Shipped Effects, Generators, Analyzers In the drop-down
DeClicker In as well
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THANK YOU SO MUCH for your time, patience, QA know-how and, of course, for Audacity.

Liz
:D

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Paul L » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:30 pm

MarcusAurelius wrote:I'm back, necro-ing this thread after over a year, haha.

Been using this for some time, and had a weird occurrence I wanted to ask about. Recommended # of passes is 2. I've been doing that standard for years. However, the longer the length of the file, it seems to get exponentially longer. For example a 20 min file takes about an hour, two passes, while a 30 min file takes about 2 hours.

Here's where it gets really strange though. If I take that same 30 min file that takes 2 hours with 2 passes, and I lower it to one pass, it only takes 25 min! So then that stands to reason that if I just run the de-clicker with 1 pass twice, it would take 50 minutes, or less than half the time of running it once with 2 passes. Does this make a difference? Does multiple passes have some other effect? I've noticed the big hang in processing time happens between the passes, so wherever this plugin is dragging, it's there.

I've also noticed that it never uses more than about 20% of system resources, even if I use the task manager to raise the priority of Audacity higher. If it could somehow be enhanced to use all my system resources (though I have no clue in the world how this can be done) it might also run faster.

I'm just always looking for ways to cut down processing time, and so I thought I'd share this with y'all. I do prefer the results of 2 pass as 1 pass misses some clicks, but I haven't yet tried running 1 pass twice.

I have observed too that the time to process rises more than linearly with the length of the recording. I am not sure why. But I have long suspected it might involve "garbage collection" in the Lisp runtine.

PRL

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:35 am

Recently upgraded to latest V Audacity. the uber quick "stop + delete + play" or even just deleting has delays/pauses. :( Still the best open source audio soft fo sho!

Now my prized possession ... Pauls De-Clicker ... did defaults change? Before, 2 passes at 6 = 0 loss of qual. (this is for vo btw). It was perfect. I never had to worry a thing! i could let de-clicker run as my final production step and never worry that something may have occurred so i better give it another final listen.

Have not touched the settings. running current defaults. CHEWS UP my audio up to bits!!! im forced to undo it. No time/patience at this moment do manual. See what happens when you get spoiled!!

I looked at Pauls initial post regarding settings. In a bit of a jam. client awaiting.

If anyone knows the default numbers top to bottom, Id dig you!!

Heres what my DeClicker currently shows (top to bottom run-down)
1
2
1
2
3
-45.0
150
9600
12
5

Id bug Gale but i already owe my first born. :lol:

Thanks in advance.
Liz

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Trebor » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:04 am

planetlizz wrote:If anyone knows the default numbers top to bottom
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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by planetlizz » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:14 am

Awesome thanks ... giving it a try now!

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