Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by DVDdoug » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 am

Are you on a Windows machine or a Mac?

Nyquist files don't have to be "associated". They just have to be in the right location and enabled in Audacity.

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Trebor » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 am

wildrose1616 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:01 am
... I get this error message:

"This file does not have an app associated with it for performing this action. Please install an app ...

I don't know what to do, but I desperately need this de-clicker ...
https ://manual.audacityteam.org/man/installing_effect_generator_and_analyzer_plug_ins_on_windows.html#nyquist_install

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by klwharton » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:45 pm

Hi! I tried downloading the declicker attachment but there doesn’t seem to be an attachment. It shows up as a blank piece of paper. I have a Mac. Help!

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by steve » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:21 am

klwharton wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:45 pm
It shows up as a blank piece of paper.
That's normal for Mac. Follow the instructions that Trebor linked to.
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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by kozikowski » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:12 pm

--- Desibilator Settings ---

I understand I'm supposed to go through all the craziness of figuring out where the Essing Hump is.

EssingBefore-Illustrated.jpg
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Let's suppose I don't do that. Let's suppose I always assume Essing is between 4000Hz and 18000Hz.

That does two things. It makes application of the Desibilator one simple application swipe.

Effect > Desibilator > OK.

And it drops Desibilator into the list of tools you can invoke in a Macro.

Thoughts?

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Trebor » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:21 pm

kozikowski wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:12 pm
... drops Desibilator into the list of tools you can invoke in a Macro ...
To set-&-forget the desibilator threshold,
the audio would have to be standardized beforehand, (e.g. previous steps in the macro) ...
remove infrasound with high-pass filter, then RMS-normalize, then apply desibilator.

Without standardization you'd have to adjust the desibilator threshold on a case-by-case basis.

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by kozikowski » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:33 pm

desibilator threshold on a case-by-case basis.
Oh right. It's level dependent.

Does it have to be? Essing is objectionable not because the tones in the haystack are loud, it's that the haystack tones are too loud in relation to the rest of the tones in the performance. You can sense overall RMS. Contrast can do that.

In any event, my application always follows audiobook mastering, so the Essing frequency boundaries are the only two values I've ever changed. If I don't have to do that......

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by kozikowski » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:37 pm

Does Desibilator do anything if it's not needed? If there is no haystack, nothing happens, right?

I'm building up to the Audiobook Mastering Macro. The only reason there isn't an anointed one now is that stupid RMS/LUFS defect.

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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by steve » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:41 pm

kozikowski wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:37 pm
Does Desibilator do anything if it's not needed? If there is no haystack, nothing happens, right?
Nothing in the "documentation" about that. I think you'd need to do extensive and detailed testing to work out what it's doing.
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Re: Updated De-Clicker and new De-esser for speech

Post by Trebor » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:35 pm

kozikowski wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:37 pm
Does Desibilator do anything if it's not needed? If there is no haystack, nothing happens, right?
If the threshold is set high, say 0dB, it does nothing to the waveform.

As it's a limiter without make-up gain, repeated applications of desibilator have no effect:
there's nothing to shave-off the second-time, if the settings are unchanged.

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