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Cynthia Moore
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Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by Cynthia Moore » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:47 am

When I first access this forum and often when I switch to a different page, I get the message in the attached screenshot.

Does this have something to do with the Windows 10 "security" feature just released?

It's not a huge problem -- just annoying.
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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by steve » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:00 am

The forum is protected by Cloudflare. If you are connecting to the forum from a network that Cloudflare considers to be "potentially unsafe", then it performs a couple of additional security checks before allowing the connection. You probably won't see that message when connecting from a normal home Internet account.
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Cynthia Moore
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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by Cynthia Moore » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:07 am

steve wrote:
> The forum is protected by
> [url=https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/]Cloudflare[/url]. If you are
> connecting to the forum from a network that Cloudflare considers to be
> "potentially unsafe", then it performs a couple of additional
> security checks before allowing the connection. You probably won't see that
> message when connecting from a normal home Internet account.

I am connecting from a normal home Internet account.

And why does it check multiple times during the same login session. Is it not smart enough to remember that it already checked my connection?

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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by steve » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:19 am

Cynthia Moore wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:07 am
And why does it check multiple times during the same login session. Is it not smart enough to remember that it already checked my connection?
I've no idea. I'm just the forum administrator, not the SysAdmin.

How are you getting on with Audacity?
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Cynthia Moore
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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by Cynthia Moore » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:06 am

steve wrote:
> [quote="Cynthia Moore" post_id=406567 time=1602724020
> user_id=259778]
> And why does it check multiple times during the same login session. Is it
> not smart enough to remember that it already checked my connection?
> [/quote]
> I've no idea. I'm just the forum administrator, not the SysAdmin.

Will you pass it along to the SysAdmin?

> How are you getting on with Audacity?

Just getting started. I am having problem with stereo recording. I posted about that in the Windows section.

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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by steve » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:12 am

Cynthia Moore wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:06 am
Will you pass it along to the SysAdmin?
Already have done :)
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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by Cynthia Moore » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:38 am

steve wrote:
> [quote="Cynthia Moore" post_id=406574 time=1602727580
> user_id=259778]
> Will you pass it along to the SysAdmin?
> [/quote]
> Already have done :)

Great, and maybe ask why "CouldFlare" needs to put in a 5-second delay when I click on Preview? I guess I can understand before a post, but a preview?

...and only sometimes. I did not get the delay when previewing this post. Is CloudFlare just a random number generator?

And this is unrelated, so I might get scolded for that, but why is the quoting mechanism different in this section and it also does not have any text formatting controls?

Ah! That time I got the delay before the preview. Sure looks like a random number generator to me.

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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by kozikowski » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:26 am

Is CloudFlare just a random number generator?
It may be reacting to lists of perceived evil posters. Have you ever been refused access to or banned from any of those dozens and dozens of forums, Cynthia?

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Cynthia Moore
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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by Cynthia Moore » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:46 am

kozikowski wrote:
> [quote]Is CloudFlare just a random number generator?[/quote]
>
> It may be reacting to lists of perceived evil posters. Have you ever been
> refused access to or banned from any of those dozens and dozens of forums,
> Cynthia?
>
> Koz

Nope! But if that's what it's doing, why does it only "check" some of my actions and not all of them? I still think it's doing nothing at all -- just a random number generator.

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Re: Checking browser before accessing Audacityteam.org

Post by DragonHawk » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:53 am

CloudFlare does browser finger-printing with JavaScript, and likely some kind of user behavior tracking as well. Exactly what and why they don't disclose. They're trying to differentiate actual human users of a browser, vs bots and scripts that are doing naughty things. I get their interstitial a lot, too.

I have a vague suspicion CloudFlare is more likely to trigger on "unusual" combinations of OS/browser/plugins/settings/etc., but that's pure speculation on my part. I also suspect opening lots of new tabs/windows (instead of just following links in one window) tends to trigger a new interstitial, but again, no proof.

Granting the site you're trying to visit (audacityteam.org in this case) exceptions to things like privacy filters, ad blockers, tracking protections, etc., (i.e., so the site is allowed more freedom to do things with your browser) may help.

I've also seen a suggestion that having an incorrect clock date/time or time zone set on one's computer can make them more likely to trigger.

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