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Combining / "morphing" sounds by modulation?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:15 pm
by patniemeyer
I'm looking for techniques to combine two dissimilar sounds for a sound effect. Simple approaches like combining them and playing with the envelopes and equalization are not not working well. I found some nyquist code for a ring modulation and tried using that to add in a bit of the sum and difference, thinking it might help blend it a bit, but I don't really know what I'm doing :)

My questions are:

1) Are there techniques for combining sounds using nyquist that I should try?
2) Are there other plugins that implement sound "morphing" or interpolation of some kind based on the direct waveforms or spectrums?
3) Is there a way in Audacity or with nyquist code to map the envelope of one sound to another?
4) Is there a way in audacity or with nyquist code to map the spectrum-envelope of one sound to a dynamic filter to be applied to another sound?

If none of these exist I am thinking about trying to write #3 and #4... not sure how easy they'd be using nyquist (which I'm not that familiar with) but I think I could do it with an audio processing library in another language.

thanks!

Re: Combining / "morphing" sounds by modulation?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:13 pm
by steve
There are many possible approaches (possibly limitless).
Could you narrow it down a bit? What are the sounds, and what is this for?

Re: Combining / "morphing" sounds by modulation?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:58 pm
by Trebor
patniemeyer wrote:3) Is there a way in Audacity or with nyquist code to map the envelope of one sound to another?
You're looking for an "envelope follower" ...

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Steve's "dynamic mirror" plugin will also do that.
patniemeyer wrote:4) Is there a way in audacity or with nyquist code to map the spectrum-envelope of one sound to a dynamic filter to be applied to another sound?
Vocoder does that.

Re: Combining / "morphing" sounds by modulation?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:53 am
by patniemeyer
steve wrote:Could you narrow it down a bit? What are the sounds, and what is this for?
At the moment I'm trying to combine a cat meow and a rasping sound to create a cat-monster roar... i.e. imagine a giant cat roaring in a godzilla like way :)

I'm hoping the envelope follow and vocoder mentioned above will help in combination with some regular mixing.

Thanks!

Re: Combining / "morphing" sounds by modulation?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:18 pm
by steve
You could try using the "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" effect to lengthen the "meow" and progressively lower its pitch, and crossfade that with your "cat-monster roar".

If you don't yet have a "cat-monster" sound, you may be able to use or adapt a sound from https://freesound.org/