How to transpose track to 528Hz

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How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by tony12345 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:14 pm

Hi,
is there a way to transpose track to 528Hz using Audacity?
If yes, how can I do that?

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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by steve » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:06 pm

528 Hz is a frequency. It means, something that repeats 528 times per second.
In music, tuning to a frequency means tuning one note of an instrument to that frequency. For example, if I tune my violin to 440 Hz, then I am tuning the A string so that when played it vibrates at a frequency of 440 oscillations per second, and would then tune the other strings so that they are in equal tempered tuningwith that "A" (thus "G" would be tuned to 196.00 Hz, "D" to 293.66 Hz and "E" to 659.25 Hz.

If your track has just one note, then yes you can tune it to any frequency you like, but if your track is "music" (lots of different notes), then can you say which note in that music it is that you want tuned to 528 Hz, or do you perhaps want all of the notes to be 528 Hz :?
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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by tony12345 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:24 pm

I want to transpose a whole track but now I think it's probably a bad idea.
I'm curious how they transpose their tracks to 528Hz.
I just wanted to do the same with my tracks.

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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by steve » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:51 pm

They've probably either (a) speeded the music up by 0.909% or (b) "stretched" the pitch by 0.909% or (c) done nothing and are just saying that they've changed it. Most likely they've just used a DJ CD player that has speed/pitch controls and raised the pitch a bit.

To do (a), use the "Change Speed" effect and enter 0.909 as the "Percent Change".
To do (b), use the "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" effect and enter 0.909 as the "Initial Pith Shift %" and "Final Pith Shift %".
To do (c), tell someone that you have transposed it to 528 Hz.

What "528 tuning" really is, is playing music with instruments that are tuned so that "middle C" has a frequency of 528 Hz (and other notes tuned accordingly, as per this table: http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreq444.html). For "real" (non-electronic) instruments, this is not quite the same as changing the pitch of a recording. For real instruments, changing the tuning affects the timbre of the instrument in ways that changing the pitch of a recording doesn't. Solo instrumentalists will sometimes "detune" their instrument a bit higher or lower than A440 so as to achieve a different tonal quality (timbre).

Note that methods (a) and (b) assumes that the original recording plays with instruments tuned exactly to A 440, and assumes that the playback equipment plays at exactly the right speed.
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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by tony12345 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:06 pm

Thanks steve for your help.

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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by amunra22 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:40 am

Hi Steve

i have done based on Your instruction but final truck is so high - voices are like from cartoon
regarding
To do (b), use the "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" effect and enter 0.909 as the "Initial Pith Shift %" and "Final Pith Shift %".
Initial and finall has to be 0.909 ? i done both initial - final and initial 0.909 finla 0 and oposite still recording is to high

if there are online transposer for 528 hz how they converting to get 528 hz ?

i look forward to Your reply
GREG

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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by steve » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:12 am

This is a very old thread.

The reason that "Sliding Time Scale / Pitch Shift" was suggested was because it uses a time-stretch algorithm that generally gives better quality sound for small pitch changes than the old "Change Pitch" effect. This suggestion is now obsolete because the same "high quality" time stretch algorithm is available in the "Change Pitch" effect (a check box near the bottom of the interface).
amunra22 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:40 am
i have done based on Your instruction but final truck is so high - voices are like from cartoon
regarding
Yes that is to be expected. As I wrote back in 2016; "For real instruments, changing the tuning affects the timbre of the instrument"
The same is true for voices, and is even more obvious with voices because human hearing is so highly attuned to the timbre of human voices.

The reason that audio recordings are normally played at the correct speed and pitch, is because in most cases they sound better that way. If it sounds better to you at a different speed or pitch, then by all means change it, otherwise, what's the point in making it sound worse?
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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by amunra22 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:22 pm

Hi Steve

thanks for Your reply i understand all Your point of view - for me is important to find software or way to transpose truck for 528 hz - i am looking for porgramer who can build aplicatin for this to transpose 440 hz for 528 hz to be hear normally as vocal pitch and other instrument

in my Logic Pro x i set A = 444 hz what automaticly should generate C 528 hz but its not working proper this way

lastly i transpose mp3 on some website for 528 hz it wasnt exact 528 but close

do You know any programmers what can make some applicatione like this ?
thanks
Greg

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Re: How to transpose track to 528Hz

Post by steve » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:30 pm

Antares Autotune is one of the best applications for pitch shifting vocals while maintaining a fairly natural timbre: https://www.antarestech.com/product/auto-tune-pro/ (list price $399)
Developing a similar product from scratch would be extremely expensive (tens of thousands of dollars).
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