Right mouse button menus

[Paul L]

... or do you mean to suggest that shift-right click in the magnifier tool inside the track should now have a zoom-all behavior too (perhaps horizontally not vertically, what ctrl-F does)? I suppose that might make things more consistent...

I never use the maginifer too myself, but I will be pleased to have the new behavior in the vertical ruler. That fills a gap that I have felt. Repeated right-click to zoom all again vertically was a mild nuisance.

[Gale Andrews]

The status bar message in 2.0.5 is

Click to vertically zoom in. Shift-click to zoom out. Drag to specify a zoom region.

It was an incomplete description in 2.0.5, not mentioning the right click behavior (without shift), and it is unchanged in 2.0.6. I suppose "shift-click to zoom out" might be an inexact description covering both shift-button actions?

Yes, it's incorrect. I made a note about it but we can't get into wording discussions now.

(And is "region" the correct word?)

I think so.

The six tool buttons affect what the cursor does only when it is in the sample data. So what the mouse does outside that area is independent of the tool, and not mentioned in mouse preferences. In particular what the mouse does when over the vertical ruler is summarized by the status bar message, not the preferences. So completing the description would not be an inconsistency with preferences.

Do you agree with that?

The status bar messages must be correct, irrespective. However if we use the same mouse pointer for zoom tool as we do for hover over vertical scale (whichever tool is selected) it does suggest to me that Zoom Tool and hover over vertical scale should be acting the same where there is a comparable command.

or do you mean to suggest that shift-right click in the magnifier tool inside the track should now have a zoom-all behavior too (perhaps horizontally not vertically, what ctrl-F does)?

Yes. The vertical scale code describes SHIFT + right-click as doing default zoom, but you could see SHIFT + right-click over the vertical scale as a "Fit" command, so SHIFT + right-click over the waveform with Zoom Tool selected could do Fit in Window (CTRL + F).

I also realise now from looking in Mouse Preferences that middle-click with Zoom Tool over the waveform does zoom normal (what CTRL + 2 does), so that is another reason that SHIFT + right-click should do fit rather than the same as middle button.

And if so, Multi-Tool should do the same. SHIFT + right-click would fit to window instead of the same as right-click (zoom out one step). Middle-click would zoom normal instead of doing nothing.


Gale

[Paul L]

The status bar messages must be correct, irrespective. However if we use the same mouse pointer for zoom tool as we do for hover over vertical scale (whichever tool is selected) it does suggest to me that Zoom Tool and hover over vertical scale should be acting the same where there is a comparable command.

I just thought, maybe two slightly different magnifier images could convey the suggestion that these are not exactly the same tools, such as reflecting the little cursor about its vertical axis when it crosses into the ruler?

Yes. The vertical scale code describes SHIFT + right-click as doing default zoom, but you could see SHIFT + right-click over the vertical scale as a "Fit" command, so SHIFT + right-click over the waveform with Zoom Tool selected could do Fit in Window (CTRL + F).

I also realise now from looking in Mouse Preferences that middle-click with Zoom Tool over the waveform does zoom normal (what CTRL + 2 does), so that is another reason that SHIFT + right-click should do fit rather than the same as middle button.

And if so, Multi-Tool should do the same. SHIFT + right-click would fit to window instead of the same as right-click (zoom out one step). Middle-click would zoom normal instead of doing nothing.


Gale

So this is about completing the analogies between the two magnifiers.

I'm guessing none of this is difficult to implement, but surely they are ideas for 2.0.7 or later.

[Gale Andrews]

The status bar messages must be correct, irrespective. However if we use the same mouse pointer for zoom tool as we do for hover over vertical scale (whichever tool is selected) it does suggest to me that Zoom Tool and hover over vertical scale should be acting the same where there is a comparable command.

I just thought, maybe two slightly different magnifier images could convey the suggestion that these are not exactly the same tools, such as reflecting the little cursor about its vertical axis when it crosses into the ruler?

If the behaviours are going to be different between Zoom Tool and vertical scale, I think the pointer icon should also look different when over the vertical scale.


Gale