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Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:01 am
by spodekmodek
Highlighted a portion of an audio that had pure white noise I wanted to use to remove from the whole track. Then got profile, adjusted bar, selected whole track by highlighting...but when I remove the noise and play it back it only removes the noise from the small sample area I used..not the whole track.

Can anyone figure out what I'm neglecting to do?

If still feeling magnanimous....this 1 track of 12 has the only usable section of white noise that runs through all tracks of this concert. Is there any way to use this one section on the other tracks as well?

Appreciate it more than you know!

Brenda K.

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:22 am
by kozikowski
One of the problems of posting here instead one of the forums further up is we usually need to ask you which Audacity, all three numbers, and then which computer.

Koz

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:53 pm
by spodekmodek
I appreciate the tip
Running XP on a Dell desktop
Audacity version is 1.26

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:03 pm
by kozikowski
Audacity 1.2.6 on an XP machine.

Have you exported your performance to a WAV file yet? Don't process or add filters or anything, just Export As WAV to produce a safety copy. Audacity SAVE doesn't make a sound file and you can get into trouble.

Close Audacity and restart the machine. Bring everything back up. Select the noise, capture the profile, OK, and the tool should close. This time Edit > Select > All. Did the whole performance get highlighted? Open up Noise Removal and apply it and see if it works now.

Koz

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:52 pm
by spodekmodek
Kos-
Thank you very much. The manual way of selecting the whole clip worked.

Now for what may be the real challenge. The clip that I sampled the hiss from was one audio file from many that make up a concert. None of the other audio files have the "pure hiss" needed to Noise Profile and remove. Is there a way I can apply this "profiled hiss" from this file to denoise the other files. It is the same exact hiss, volume, etc?

Thanks for lending me your expertise!

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:38 am
by kozikowski
I think Audacity only forgets the old profile if you restart Audacity or you provide a new sample. So load the first show, capture the profile or noise sample, close the show (but not Audacity) and open up the new show. Apply the noise reduction and see what happens. I expect that to work.

This is assuming they all have the same sort of noise. If the character of the noise is different between the different songs, you may have troubles.

Koz

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:39 pm
by steve
spodekmodek wrote:The clip that I sampled the hiss from was one audio file from many that make up a concert. None of the other audio files have the "pure hiss" needed to Noise Profile and remove. Is there a way I can apply this "profiled hiss" from this file to denoise the other files.
The easiest way is to select the "pure hiss" and Export it as a WAV file (using "Export Selected"). You can then import this audio clip into any project and use it for capturing the noise profile.

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:08 pm
by spodekmodek
Thanks for following up so quickly koz. I will be giving this a try.
Just out of curiosity Stevethefiddle...when you import the pure hiss file. How does that become "attached" to the new file that you are trying to de=noise?

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:38 pm
by steve
spodekmodek wrote:Just out of curiosity ...when you import the pure hiss file. How does that become "attached" to the new file that you are trying to de=noise?
The imported "pure hiss" clip will be loaded as a second (very short) track. Once you have finished with it, you can delete it (click on the "X" to the left of the track name).

Koz's provisos about the noise being of the same type are important. The closer the noise profile matches the actual noise that you are wanting to remove the better. The format of the noise sample must also be the same as the format of the audio that you are removing the noise from - for example, if the audio is "stereo 16 bit 44.1kHz", then the noise sample must also be stereo 16 bit 44.1kHz".

Re: Even the basics confound me! I currently

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:43 am
by spodekmodek
Want to thank you folks a lot for taking the time to walk me through this stuff. It actually worked . Bit of a shame that even on the least noise removed setting, it still took out too much music and made the hiss into a mechanical background noise. But at least i learned how it's done.

Merci!