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Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:36 am
by Paul L
What major differences for similar settings?

SC4 does allow more extreme settings. Also a soft knee, however that helps.

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:07 am
by steve
Probably the biggest difference: SC4 does not use lookahead.

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:08 am
by Paul L
Aha. That's a big deal. So it simulates a real time compressor, with the limitations of such.

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:34 am
by steve
Whether that is a "limitation" depends on whether you want that behaviour or not ;)
Some good effects can be achieved by using the SC4 followed by a limiter (which is a common configuration when using hardware devices).

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:45 pm
by Trebor
Reverse the track , apply SC4 , then reverse it back : now you have lookahead compression ( I think :? )

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:51 pm
by steve
Trebor wrote:Reverse the track , apply SC4 , then reverse it back : now you have lookahead compression ( I think :? )
If you want lookahead, probably better to use a compressor that has lookahead :)
Personally I find using a compressor well without real time adjustments is difficult enough without Preview playing reversed audio.

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:41 pm
by Paul L
Do you have an opinion for a good limiter effect for speech?


I understan d limiting is compresson with some lookahead, high threshold, short attack, and high ratio.. Is te Hard Limiter really an infinity to one clipper?

Should I limit before or after other compresson?

Re: Compressor vs SC4

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:31 pm
by steve
Paul L wrote:Do you have an opinion for a good limiter effect for speech?
if you are only wanting to apply a modest amount of limiting, I like this one: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... er_.282.29

For more aggressive limiting, I'd go for: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 98#p150498
(I've been considering changing the name of "brickwall.ny" because there is some confusion between this and a "clipping" effect. "brickwall.ny" is a "limiter" not a "clipping" effect.

Paul L wrote:Is te Hard Limiter really an infinity to one clipper?
If you mean the LADSPA effect, then yes it is a clipping effect, but also provides a degree of "reconstruction" (adding back a scaled version of the peaks) so as to moderate the hardness. There are also a couple of "soft clipping" effects here:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... Limiter_II
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... imiter_III

Paul L wrote:Should I limit before or after other compresson?
Generally I would apply compression first, particularly when using a compressor that does not use lookahead (such as SC4).
If the uncompressed audio has occasional high transients, then you may want to use a limiter to moderate those first (more likely with music than voice recording).

For performing "loudness maximizing" it can be useful to apply limiting both before and after. The first pass to handle transients, and the second pass to squeeze out just a bit more loudness after using a lookahead compressor.