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Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:57 am
by Paul L
I learned of someone who uses Steve's PopMute effect with certain settings as a compressor for voice recordings -- two or three times, alternating with amplification to a 0 dB peak.

Is this a surprising unintended use?

I use Compressor with certain settings and have been avoiding the temptation to experiment, but I may try out this curious method. Automating the repeated PopMute and amplify loop for my friend should be easy.

I am not sure what I want to listen for, to tell bad from good or very good results.

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:34 am
by steve
Paul L wrote:I learned of someone who uses Steve's PopMute effect with certain settings as a compressor for voice recordings -- two or three times, alternating with amplification to a 0 dB peak.
Is this a surprising unintended use?
It's an unintended use, but not hugely surprising. Users frequently find novel ways to do things. My attitude is "if it works for you, do it" :)
My guess is that he is using it as a kind of "Limiter".

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:42 am
by Paul L
Said she disliked what Limiter itself did.

I don't know if she really tried out Compressor.

Then there is Chris's which I haven't yet tried at all. I don't know how it surpasses Compressor.

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:54 am
by steve
Paul L wrote:Said she disliked what Limiter itself did.
If you mean the built-in "Leveler" effect, then I completely agree. I've campaigned for that effect to be replaced for years!
The problem with the built-in "Leveler" effect is that it is not really a Limiter, it is a Wave Shaper (AKA a distortion effect).

I'd suggest that she tries this Limiter: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... er_.282.29

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:06 pm
by Paul L
I meant Leveler, that's what she dislikes.

I just see the manual says "use Compressor instead" and I have never tried it.

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:08 pm
by steve
Paul L wrote:I meant Leveler, that's what she dislikes.
I guessed that and followed suit in calling it "Limiter" :oops: I've now corrected my previous post to say "Leveler".

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:12 pm
by steve
Paul L wrote:I just see the manual says "use Compressor instead" and I have never tried it.
The built-in "Compressor" effect is a bit quirky, (dynamic compressors frequently are), but can produce good results. You'll need to play with it to get a feel for it, but it is reasonably well documented in the manual.

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:45 pm
by Paul L
I set and forgot a while ago, now I'm learning what I do isn't what others do. Too many options can be paralyzing!

I recall Compressed base on Peaks sounded really bad to me, but of course, in combination with what? I forget. Now I learn others do recommend that.

Re: Compressing with PopMute

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:07 pm
by steve
Compression is one affect that would greatly benefit from "real time preview" (so that you can twiddle the controls while listening).