How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

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How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by Witiko » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:28 pm

How would you achive such an effect with male voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlnJSGRuaE&t=52s?
Is it a mere EQ of certain frequencies or something more elaborate, I wonder?

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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by steve » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:37 pm

For a great vocal recording, in order of importance:
  • first you need a good vocal
  • second, you need a good recording environment (good acoustics and very low background noise)
  • third is microphone placement and setting all of the levels correctly
  • fourth is choice of microphone and pre-amp (if the equipment is very bad quality then this becomes greater priority)
  • finally, what you do after recording is the icing on the cake. Too much icing can ruin a good cake.
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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by Witiko » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:50 pm

And, given one does have such a recording, what sort of icing would you then recommend to achieve the aforementioned effect?

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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by Trebor » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Witiko wrote:How would you achive such an effect with male voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlnJSGRuaE&t=52s?
Is it a mere EQ of certain frequencies or something more elaborate, I wonder?
There is reverberation on that, probably a reverb effect rather than due to the location ...
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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by kozikowski » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:12 pm

You're dangerously close to asking, "Which effect makes me into a famous singer." We're working on that one.

They're all lip-syncing in the video. The real voice was recorded something like this.

http://kozco.com/tech/audacity/wynonna2.jpg

Anything you do to a voice track brings up noise and interference, that's why you still have to rent a studio or create a very quiet one at home with blankets and quilts on the walls.

http://www.kozco.com/pictures/boothFini ... op-mic.jpg

If your voice doesn't already have lower register tones, there's no good way to create them and just boosting your existing voice sounds very other-worldly and not in a good way. There are sub-bass generators and that may be one possibility, but they tend to work best with bass instruments and not voices.

Voices are hard. We take a lot of "person" clues from listening to somebody's voice. "Happy to finally meet you. You don't look at all like your voice..." So messing with the voice quality is very important -- and very difficult.

We have postings from people who are aggressively NOT SINGERS wanting that filter.

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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by kozikowski » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:21 pm

Even if all you did was add reverb/echo that would go a long way, but Audacity's GVerb may not be the place to go for that. It's a tool to build an echo tool, not the tool itself.

Post some of your voice and we'll see what can be done. You can do a very short chunk here...

http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 49&t=64936

Or you can get a free posting service to host a larger chunk. Remembering that it must be voice only. We can't split voice and music -- or put music on the right and voice on the left.

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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by Witiko » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:04 pm

kozikowski wrote:Post some of your voice and we'll see what can be done.
Thanks. Here is a sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?dhdzlnfm2vdbgul

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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by steve » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:01 am

Thanks for the upload, but could you post a "raw" (completely unprocessed) sample.

Do you have a backing to go with it? The vocal will be able to carry a lot more "icing" when/if it is against a backing track.
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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by steve » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:50 am

I had a few minutes spare so I did a quick bit of post production. Sorry about some of the clashing chords, it was done very quickly ;)

Basically I've raised the bass and the top end a little (Equalization), compressed the dynamics (Compressor effect) then some Delay and Reverb.
For comparison there;s a short extract of your original recording at the end.
eq and reverb.mp3
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Re: How to bring the bass vocal range up in the mix

Post by kozikowski » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:07 am

In other words, forget the oddball bass boost, your voice is fine as it is.

You two should talk.

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