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how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:00 pm
by curl
Hi,

I got a DVD of a sport lecture, its no commerical stuff, but unfortunately the guy that taped it does a voiceover in his language over the original english track. now i tried around with the karaoke plugin to remove the loud voiceover, but dont get any useful results.

can somebody give me a hint what to try ? the quality is not so important...since its enough to understand the original voice

my toughts are to isolate the voiceover, invert it and add it to the original track .... since i am not firm with audioediting anyway every clue is welcome ... may be there is an easier way ?

thanks!

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:08 am
by kozikowski
These are the three software packages that might help.

Center Pan Remover (Voice Remover--Search the page for "Center Pan Remover")
http://audacityteam.org/download/nyquistplugins

Voice Isolator (Opposite of Center Pan Remover)
Voice Trap
http://www.cloneensemble.com/vt_main.htm
Extra Boy
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1651.html


One of the isolator packages will remove, too.

If both the voiceover and the original announcer are in the middle of the stereo field, you're dead. If the original show is in Mono, you're dead. You're not after quality, so I think those are the only two deads. If you're after high quality stereo results, then the chance of success never goes over about 20%-30% or so.

Koz

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:33 am
by curl
Thanks a lot!

I will try this the next days and report if it worked.

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:17 pm
by TheNewNumber2
Would Center Pan Remover work on something like dialogue mixed into music?

Take the sample of track 16 for example:

http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Light-Music ... B000002N8O

Could that be removed with CPR, or another way?

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:14 pm
by steve
TheNewNumber2 wrote:Would Center Pan Remover work on something like dialogue mixed into music?
"Center Pan remover" removes sound that is panned dead centre.
Did you try it before posting your question?
Did you listen to the track?
Is the vocal a mono source panned dead centre (without any stereo effects)?

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:17 am
by TheNewNumber2
I downloaded Center Pan Remover and tried it, but the words are still there.

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:05 pm
by steve
That's because there is a massive and very obvious stereo effect on the voice-over. The voice is not in the centre, so it will not be removed by the centre pan remover. In fact, this is an excellent example of when Centre Pan Remover will not remove the vocal. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00122 ... u_dp_trk16

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:29 pm
by TheNewNumber2
So, I am basically out of luck, huh? I hate it when voice sample are added to score to "enhance" it. Sorry, but it didnt' need "enhancing".

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:46 pm
by waxcylinder
Yup, it's just like when annoying DJs insist on speaking over the start and end of a track when you're trying to record it from FM ...

WC

Re: how to remove a voiceover?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:26 am
by TheNewNumber2
No, not the same. I bought[/b] my CD years ago.