Page 2 of 4

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:58 am
by waxcylinder
Madysun wrote: this brings me in to a frenzy of having to click OK for about 150 different windows. they all are the same except for the track number. but there aren't 150(or so) tracks in the file... i don't understand what i'm doing wrong :(
You quite possibly do have 150 or so "tracks" in your project - caused by your use of multiple labels at the same point. From your posting I can see at least 3 per position and possibly more as the label track window is not fully expanded.

And you also have repeated label names which will either really confuse Audacity on Export - or cause the same file to be re-written many timers, causing data loss.

So... one label per position and unique label names - then try Export Multiple.

And yes you do have clipping distortion from an oversaturated signal ...

WC

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:25 am
by Madysun
hey thanks! i knew that the labeling was causing me some sort of problem, since it wouldn't let me name some of the tracks.

but i don't get how to perfectly alighn each label together, one after the other, not skipping or overlapping even the smallest bit of audio. sometimes there's a yellow line that shows up that tells me where the last label ended, but other times, the yellow line will not show up :( there must be a fool-proof way?

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:25 pm
by waxcylinder
It can be a little confusing as there are two types of label in Audacity:

1) the type shown in billw58's response to you where the label covers a duration (and in your posted example) - you can see the bold line extending the length of the labelled section.
2) labels at specific points (essentially these are markers). For this, Export Multiple treats the section between two labels as a track/song and will create a file for that - which is why your multiple labels at the same point cause problems on export.

Personally, I find it easier to work withe the type 2 single point labels. There is also an Export setting which enables you to ignore any recording before the first label - which may be useful to you if you have some recorded silence, or signal, before the first track/song that you want to export.

I have no idea what happens if you mix both label types or if you use the type-1 labels with ranges but leave gaps between the ranges - I may try an experiment sometime to find out.

WC

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:47 pm
by billw58
Madysun wrote:but i don't get how to perfectly align each label together, one after the other, not skipping or overlapping even the smallest bit of audio.
Here's what I do:

1) Click on the point where you want the track division
2) Click on Edit > Split
3) Continue in this manner putting a split point between each track
Your track is now divided into a bunch of clips, one clip per track
4) Double-click on the first clip
5) Click on Tracks > Add Label at Selection
6) Type in a unique name for the label
7) Continue in this manner adding a label that spans each clip.

There will be zero overlap between labels and zero gaps between labels.

Look at the screenshot I posted earlier - you can see what this will look like.

-- Bill

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:53 am
by Madysun
okay so the problem i have when labeling, after the first few labels, it will stop showing the box to type a name for the label. i undid the label and tried it again, but it kept doing the same thing.

there are only like two songs tho, that won't let me name the label :?:

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:38 pm
by billw58
I don't think you've told us what version of Audacity you're using. Versions prior to 1.3.5 (or so) had a bug where if you tried to type a letter into a label, and that key was also used as a shortcut (such a j k z r), the shortcut would be executed instead of typing the letter. That has been fixed. So make sure you're running version 1.3.9.

Although this doesn't sound like problem you're describing, it is worth investigating.

We need another screenshot if we're going to move forward. Note that once we saw the previous screenshot we saw immediately what the problem was.

-- Bill

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:49 pm
by Madysun
hey thanks bill! i downloaded the 1.3.9 version and it lets me label all the songs now!

unfortunately.. it won't let me export multiple... Audacity just freezes after i press export :(

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:05 pm
by Madysun
here's what the export multiple window looks like before i press export

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:33 am
by billw58
Sorry, I meant a screenshot of the project window showing the audio track and label track, like you provided last time.
- Bill

Re: how to seperate one large track in to seperate tracks?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:30 am
by Madysun
here it is, sorry it's small :D

note that after i downloaded Audacity 1.3.9, it didn't give me any more trouble with the labeling.