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Re: Replacement for E-MU 1616

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:21 pm
by elton75
Two things :

1) You can find late drivers here :
http://www.touslesdrivers.com/index.php ... _page=12#4

For information, my E-MU 1820M PCI card works fine in Windows 8.1 64 bits.
I checked with latest drivers (2.13 beta) and the ones before (2.10), works perfectly with ASIO, and "Windows/Waves" playback (don't forget to unmute the WAVES strip channel in Patchmix !)

2) Regarding Windows recording devices in the Sound Panel, now I can't record from E-MU either with non-ASIO apps. It's supposed to work, though, first thing :
In Patchmix DSP, you have to send your mix to the WAVE L/R HOST channel (using an insert in channel strip, Master strip or AUX1/2).
Could work for you, usually does.
I'm pretty sure it worked for me with XP, but on my Windows 8.1 64 bits, the E-MU appears as Recording device, I can select as Default, I send the mix to WAVES L/R, but the meter in Sound Panel won't move. Maybe it's a problem with 64 bits.

Re: Replacement for E-MU 1616

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:46 pm
by Singularrr
Thanks, the site's in French, but I've managed to check out the drivers. They're links at E-Mu, where I've already downloaded all available 1616M PCI and PatchMix app drivers directly.

As for sending to Wave, been there, done that ad nauseam, using the instructions posted at Emu.com for Skype, and variations. Having done clean installs of Patchmix and trying all Emu PCI drivers on TWO identical systems and still no luck, I have to conclude that something in Windows 7 has changed in an update. (Also note that in on two or three occasions, it worked okay, or partially, but then stopped working after the next reboot, which also tells me it's not my PatchMix setup at fault.) This time last year, it was all working okay. Maybe Microsoft fixed this in Win 8? Would I be too cynical to think that MS mucked up 7 to make 8 more attractive?

Does the 1820M use the same 1212 card as the 1616 MicroDock? Do you have the PCI card, or PCIe? Those also might be factors, as the PCIe uses a different drivers.

For now, I've installed ASIO Bridge. Am getting echo and crosstalk in Skype unless I mute WAV L/R, but will see if maybe that's from my Patchmix configuration. Will play with various routings. Whatever works.

Re: Replacement for E-MU 1616

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:31 am
by elton75
Hi,

my 1820M is the PCI card with a daughter-card for synchro (never used it).
I played a little with HI-FI VB-Cable and ASIO Bridge, and it works fine, takes some time to figure it out without true documentation but I think I got it !
The ASIO Route thing with the 8 ASIO channel buttons is still a little obscure, I admit :o
I tried to record with Wavelab (not using its ASIO capability of course, just to make Wavelab act like Audacity I guess) and it went OK, using the HIFI cable as I/O in the software prefs.

I couldn't make Windows Sound Recorder to record audio from Windows, though, only way was to use the Realtek sound card as Input and Output. You need a program that lets you select the audio streams I/O, and sound recorder does not.

By the way, you don't have to use WAVE L/R with ASIO Bridge, only "regular" ASIO channels.

If you need help, tell me exactly what you want to do, we can exchange some screen captures.
And tell me, by the way, why the hell do you use Audacity instead of a REAL Asio recording software ? Well, if you love it ...

Re: Replacement for E-MU 1616

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:14 pm
by Singularrr
Maybe your 1820M is a totally different product from the 1616M setup. Whatever, I've tired of the 1616 drivers' hide-and-seek, so have stopped chasing it altogether.

To answer your question, at the moment, I have two DAWs, Audacity and Pro Tools. Each has its strengths. With Pro Tools, usability is not one of them.

I also use a program called TotalRecorder, a LOT, especially for recording Skype calls. Open, select "Software" as the input, and bingo, me on the left, my caller on the right. Used to be a no-brainer. Now with Asio Bridge, I may have to create a special PatchMix configuration to avoid echo.

I never even knew Sound Recorder even existed, until the Audacity/ASIO issue arose. Seems like garbage. I've used it only for testing. I haven't tried it with ASIO Bridge yet.

If there were a PC version of Twisted Wave (not the online version), with more than two channels, I'd probably be using that.

Someday I might write up a getting-started primer for ASIO Bridge, after I've had more time to focus on it. Agreed, it sorely needs it. I'd used it in Feburary but forgot what I did, and last week was stymied until I ran VB Cable Setup and VB Cable Control Panel, which gave me a panel that (IIRC) got me started. From there I clicked stuff in ASIO Bridge and eventually got it going. I'm able to to set the buffer pretty small, and have set the bit rate to what I'm recording at, so that (I hope) no intermediate "translation" is necessary. The EMU MicroDock has a pretty nice preamp, I'd hate to mess it up.

The irony in this was my first-ever DAW was Cakewalk, which came bundled with my first-ever sound card, from Creative Labs. I adored both. Talk about love-hate, with regard to Creative I've gone from one to the other.