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Input Equipment to Record

Post by nanob0t » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:08 pm

Hello,

I just downloaded Audacity, and I need help recording. I have two different means of managing this. Here's my conditions:

Situation 1 -

I wish to record through a Korg TimeWorks Signal Process (Model AX3000GG)
It has both a 1/4'' cable adapter, which I can record through a Line 6 Gear Box. I use GearBox to run it.
or
I have a Yamaha UX16 Midi Controller. It has MIDI In/Out and it can connect straight to the processor.

Both have drivers and are properly installed.


How do I manage to record through these?

None of the hardware is displayed under prefrences.

Thanks Everyone!

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by nanob0t » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:32 pm

Guess what I'm trying to say, is how do I assign something on USB to be a recording device.

I have a USB-MIDI Cable, and I just need to get it to become the means of recording

Either that or I have 1/4'' Cable (Standard Guitar Cable) that goes to a gear box that I could use

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by alatham » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:34 pm

I'm a bit confused about exactly what you're trying to do here.
I wish to record through a Korg TimeWorks Signal Process (Model AX3000GG)
It has both a 1/4'' cable adapter, which I can record through a Line 6 Gear Box. I use GearBox to run it.
So basically you have an instrument (I'll assume guitar) plugged into the Korg unit which is then plugged into something that you've called the "Gear Box". And you've got the Gearbox software that you want to use.

The problem here is that the "Gear Box" is not a piece of hardware, it's a piece of software, I'll assume you meant to say that you have a Line6 Tone Port or Guitar Port. You didn't say how you have the Tone Port plugged in, so I'll assume USB.

In order for Audacity directly recognize the Tone Port, the Tone Port needs to be using non-ASIO drivers. I'm not sure if it does this normally, or if you have to specify them. Then you'll be able to record from the Tone Port directly.

The problem is that the Tone Port signal isn't going to be very great since it's not using the GearBox software. And Audacity can't record directly from a software input, it requires a hardware input such as a Line In or Mic In.

The only way that I'm aware of to record the output of the GearBox software is to tell GearBox to use a second set of outputs on your soundcard and run a cable from that output to the Line In. This either requires a second sound card, or a sound card with more than 2 outputs. It also requires that GearBox can be set to use a different output (I think it can). Then you'll set Audacity to use the Line In input and you'll be able to hear the output of the GearBox software.

Audacity cannot use real-time VST plugins as an input source like software sequencers can.

In order to use your MIDI controller, the setup will need to be similar to the one I just described. You'll just plug a MIDI instrument into the Korg instead of a Guitar.

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by alatham » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:36 pm

You posted while I was writing that.

One more problem:
I have a USB-MIDI Cable, and I just need to get it to become the means of recording
MIDI cables do not carry audio data. You cannot use Audacity to record a MIDI signal since Audacity is not a software synth.

MIDI is just a standard that electronic instruments use to talk to each other. MIDI is closer to sheet music than it is to sound.

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by nanob0t » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:47 pm

Yes, it's a Tone Port. That's more of a back up plan if I can't get the USB/MIDI way to work.

I will explain with pictures, because I suck explaining

LAPTOP---USB/MIDI----KORG----Instrument Input

I have software for the Korg Processor installed
I have drivers installed for the Yamaha UX16 USB/MIDI Cable

I wish to tell Audacity to input my Korg Signal Processor from the USB Port. The USB/MIDI Cable is just the means of speaking between the laptop and Signal Processor. I want to record from the Korg Signal Processor.

Hope this makes more sense, thanks for working with me :)


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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by alatham » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:54 pm

I'm still confused.
I wish to tell Audacity to input my Korg Signal Processor from the USB Port. The USB/MIDI Cable is just the means of speaking between the laptop and Signal Processor. I want to record from the Korg Signal Processor.
You still seem to be saying that you want to use a MIDI signal to send audio data to your computer and record that data. It's not possible to do this.

From my understanding you have the Korg unit connected through MIDI to a piece of software that is used to control the Korg unit. The only connection you seem to have between the Korg and the computer is a USB<->MIDI cable (is this true?). If that's true then it will not work. You can only get MIDI data sent/received using that method. You have to have an audio connection between the Korg and the computer. You do that by running a cable (2x mono 1/4" <-> stereo 1/8") from the analog output of the Korg to the Line In on your soundcard and setting Audacity to record from the Line In. From my understanding, the Korg cannot not provide a USB audio signal.

However, if the "Korg Signal Processor" is actually a piece of audio software (a "soft synth" or "software processor") then you'll have to use the method I originally described (sending the output of the secondary audio software to a different set of outputs on your pc and then routing those to the analog Line In on your soundcard, provided your soundcard allows this). This is definitely the method you need to use to use the GearBox software, there's no way to get Audacity to recognize a software audio input.

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by mrfish » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:06 am

hi there

i was just browsing the forums for help to my problem . which is this : i want to create a podcast using two mics . After some investigation it seemed apparent that we should buy a mixer or similar device . we ended up getting the tone port line 6 . I am able to get the tone port to work with the two mics using the software that came with it , either podfarm or gearbox . i then wanted to route the audio data to audacity. mainly so that we could take advantage of audacity's editing capability . then i saw the info below
alatham wrote:The problem is that the Tone Port signal isn't going to be very great since it's not using the GearBox software. And Audacity can't record directly from a software input, it requires a hardware input such as a Line In or Mic In.
what i need to know is the reference to audacity being only able to record directly from line in or mic in how accurate is that ? and if 100% accurate have i wasted my money buying the tone port . or can i use different audio editing software to accomplish my goal . or is there a workaround i.e. record save as a file then use audacity to edit (yucky would like to catch as much crap as possible live )

thanks a lot

mrfish

working on windows xp

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Re: Input Equipment to Record

Post by steve » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:41 pm

I think that comment is about using the built in software guitar effects that are supplied with this product.

You should be able to make clean recordings using Audacity, but any software effects that are included with the interface will probably not be available.

Setting up the Tone Port is likely to be similar to what is described here: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 087#p47454
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