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Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:42 pm
by ChezUK
Thanks.

Most of them have very sketchy data online and some are white labels etc so I think I'm gonna have to type up the metadata as I go :/

The discs haven't been abused too much - they were always stored well and only used in my spare bedroom, but they weren't exactly handled with kid gloves and were always played on DJ turntables with straight tone arms and DJ cartridges.

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:46 pm
by waxcylinder
ChezUK wrote:Most of them have very sketchy data online and some are white labels etc so I think I'm gonna have to type up the metadata as I go :/
You could be terribly old-fashioned and use pencil & paper, in the 20 minutes of recording tou should have plenty of time to make notes in a little notebook :geek:

WC

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:47 pm
by ChezUK
I was even thinking of just snapping a photo of each as I go. As long as I keep the photos in the order I rip that should do the job

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:49 pm
by waxcylinder
ChezUK wrote:I was even thinking of just snapping a photo of each as I go. As long as I keep the photos in the order I rip that should do the job
Good thought - and that way if you have any that are not white-label and have cover artwork you can use the piccies for online artwork in your music library.

WC

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:00 pm
by ChezUK
waxcylinder wrote:
ChezUK wrote:I was even thinking of just snapping a photo of each as I go. As long as I keep the photos in the order I rip that should do the job
Good thought - and that way if you have any that are not white-label and have cover artwork you can use the piccies for online artwork in your music library.

WC
Good thinking!! Thanks :)

I also just realised my laptop has HDMI In (which I'm thinking will be better than the Mic input) and my surround receiver has a phono stage and HDMI out, so I'm going to try hooking it all up and see if I even need the Behringer USB phono thingy.

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:18 pm
by ChezUK
Another quick question if you don't mind?

Roughly how much disk space will 1 minute of 32-bit WAVE recording use? (I'm trying to make sure I have enough space both on my laptop and on my USB HDD that I'll use as a backup)

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:24 pm
by waxcylinder
ChezUK wrote:I also just realised my laptop has HDMI In (which I'm thinking will be better than the Mic input) and my surround receiver has a phono stage and HDMI out, so I'm going to try hooking it all up and see if I even need the Behringer USB phono thingy.
Don't forget that you will need a phono preamp somewhere in the chain (I think the Behringer device you refer to has one built in).

You certainly shouldn't be going in via the Mic input as that is designed for tiny signals, note line-level. Some computers have cunning "Mic inputs" that sense the signal level and adjust accordingly and can sustain/support line-level signals. The Behringer device (even at its modest cost) is likely to have a better ADC than your onboard soundcard (I certainly use an external device - Edirol UA-1EX).

WC

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:27 pm
by waxcylinder
ChezUK wrote:Another quick question if you don't mind?

Roughly how much disk space will 1 minute of 32-bit WAVE recording use? (I'm trying to make sure I have enough space both on my laptop and on my USB HDD that I'll use as a backup)
Should take 20MB per minute for stereo - half that for mono.

WC

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:27 pm
by ChezUK
waxcylinder wrote:
ChezUK wrote:I also just realised my laptop has HDMI In (which I'm thinking will be better than the Mic input) and my surround receiver has a phono stage and HDMI out, so I'm going to try hooking it all up and see if I even need the Behringer USB phono thingy.
Don't forget that you will need a phono preamp somewhere in the chain (I think the Behringer device you refer to has one built in).

You certainly shouldn't be going in via the Mic input as that is designed for tiny signals, note line-level. Some computers have cunning "Mic inputs" that sense the signal level and adjust accordingly and can sustain/support line-level signals. The Behringer device (even at its modest cost) is likely to have a better ADC than your onboard soundcard (I certainly use an external device - Edirol UA-1EX).

WC
I hadn't consider the ADC. If I use the phono preamp in my recevier and use HDMI into my laptop, I'll be going Analog>Digital in the receiver (fine so far), but then doing the Digital>Analog in my laptop and then Analog>Digital again in Audacity.. not ideal! I wish I could capture the raw digital data coming off the HDMI because I know the DACs and ADCs in my receiver are pretty top-notch.

Re: Record at +50% and change speed after?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:47 pm
by waxcylinder
ChezUK wrote:I hadn't consider the ADC. If I use the phono preamp in my recevier and use HDMI into my laptop, I'll be going Analog>Digital in the receiver (fine so far), but then doing the Digital>Analog in my laptop and then Analog>Digital again in Audacity.. not ideal! I wish I could capture the raw digital data coming off the HDMI because I know the DACs and ADCs in my receiver are pretty top-notch.
I don't know much about HDMI as input (I only use it t'other way PC=>TV) - but I would have thought that if you are presenting a digital signal to your PC via an HDMI input then the PC should bypass its own soundcard and sebd the digital signal direct to Audacity - you may nead to fiddle around in Audacity with the Input Device in the Device Toolbar to select the HDMI as input. Certainly when converted my MD recordings to WAV/MP3/AAC I used the digital out to the digital S/PDIF input on my Edirola and that totally by-passed the ADC in the Edirol and passed the signal direct to the USB services for output to the PC.

Audacity doesn't do any ADC conversion on the way in it sits there and expects a digital signal from whatever device is configured as the input device.

WC